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001 - "toban" <toban@newscienti - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n249
002 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - Keeping Down the Animal, Ike Baine
003 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - The Ravaged Foot, Ike Baine
004 - "toban" <toban@newscienti - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n250
005 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - Sleeping with my mother. Amr
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Subject: Digest dream-flow.v001.n249
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> 001 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - stab
> 002 - "toban" <toban@newscienti - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n248
> 003 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - Wedding/Marriage Disaster Dreams by
marcbrow
> 004 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - Martha diChristi dreasm site journal
> 005 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - teeth
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>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: stab
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:45:47 -0800
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>Dream Title stab Brenda
>Date of Dream 02/16/00
>Dream im in a reashonship where i feal so new about him and i have dreams
>where he pretends to love me, so he calls me over to him then he wispers in
>my ear only to pull out a knif and trys to stab me. but i run and he does
>it again. i fall for it every time though i know what is going to happen.
>Comments by Dreamer i dont know how i can trust him cause i think that this
>is a sighn that i shouldent trust him.
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>Permission Comments i would like to know what it means?
Unconsciously, the dreamer is picking up that the boyfriend poses a serious
threat. A knife can be used to 'stab someone in the back'; but also to
literally 'break one's heart'.
As long as this remains the unconscious perception of the dreamer, the
real-life relationship surely rests on rocky ground.
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>From: "toban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:47:46 -0000
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>Hi Kathy
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>Thanks for sharing your dream. My comments are as follows:-
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>> 001 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - At the door of the temple - mutual
>dreaming at the great
>> Pyr
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>>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: At the door of the temple - mutual dreaming at the great
>> Pyramid
>>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:07:57 -0800
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>>Dream Title At the door of the temple - mutual dreaming at the great
>>Pyramid - Kathy
>>Date of Dream 17th Feb (to co-incide with 16th US time)
>>Dream Here is the dream I had on the night when i asked for my dreaming
>>mind to go to the Great Pyramid as part of the mutual dreaming event on
>>16th february. I must say I was frightened at the idea of going into the
>>pyramid before I fell asleep.
>>In the dream I arrive at the tall opening of the pyramid. The doors (they
>>seemed like tall wooden ones) were open and inside was darkness. In the
>>area in front it was sandy or rather sandy/clay and quite shadowy. I stood
>>a little distance from the opeing and saw a small man (quite Egyptian
>>looking!) with dark black hair, slicked back and wearing a yellow and
black
>>stripped tight fitting shirt made of something like brushed nylon(? did
>>anyone have pyjamas on like that???. The man was bending over doing
>>something which i didn't see and he didn't see me (I'd guess I was even in
>>more shadow). I left the dream - sort of fading out of it.
>>It seemed to me that freud is at least sometimes right - I'd say my censor
>>was at work - I did NOT want to enter what seemed like the fearful land of
>>the dead!
>>Thanks Scott and Richard for the chance to party!
>>Comments by Dreamer It seemed to me that freud is at least sometimes right
>>- I'd say my censor was at work - I did NOT want to enter what seemed like
>>the fearful land of the dead!
>>Thanks Scott and Richard for the chance to party!
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>I think you have put your finger on it. I think that *both* the pre-sleep
>suggestion and the dream were a symbolic confrontation of your fear of
>death. Whatever your conscious reasons for choosing this scenario, I would
>suggest that the whole dream event was set up for you to test this primeval
>fear. You yourself have translated the meaning that The Pyramid has for
>*you* - the fearful land of the dead.
>
>At another level, the dream may show in a visually dramatic form, the
>beginnings of a conscious OBE. The fear of death is one thing that holds
>many inexperienced practitioners of this 'art' back from effective
>experimentation.
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>Thanks for sharing
>
>Tony
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>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Wedding/Marriage Disaster Dreams by marcbrow
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:27:33 -0800
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>Dream Title Wedding/Marriage Disaster Dreams by marcbrow
>Date of Dream reoccurring
>Dream About once a week, for at least six months, and more infrequently
>even before then, I have a wedding or marriage disaster dream. In all of
>them, I am marrying or am married to my current boyfriend. Anything that
>can go wrong does. From not having a dress five minutes before the ceremony
>to set to begin to my father forcing me to hold the wedding in our living
>room because he wants to wear shorts- most of the situations are
>ridiculous, but all seem very real and cause me great stress and anxiety.
>In the wedding disaster dreams, it has once or twice been a friend's
>wedding that I caused to be a disaster by not being ready or causing her
>some kind of stress. In the living room wedding dream, his mom got in a
>fist fight with our best man's mom over a wedding gift. In another, we got
>married and came back to the hotel room to get ready for the reception (For
>some reason, I had to change into a different dress, which I did not have.)
>and found that he !
>!
>had invited all of his friends there for a wild bash where they all got
>drunk and threw my stuff out the windows. Then another wedding couple
>showed up and kicked me out of the portion of the room that was mine. Then
>I had to wait in a long line of strangers speaking different languages to
>try to get back into my room. Clearly, all these events are ridiculous. In
>the marriage disaster dreams, we are already married, but we hate each
>other for varied reasons, none of which are clear to me when the dreams are
>over. These dreams are also overly dramatic and seem unrealistic in their
>situations, like us scraeming at each other and throwing armfuls of papers
>at each other while standing in a busy street.
>Comments by Dreamer I'd love to hear comments that anyone has. My friends
>are starting to think I am just making these up, they are so strange and
>happen so regularly.
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>Permission Comments I'm in favor of any comments I can get.
Perhaps the dreamer is not totally sure of this relationship and is telling
herself that real committment at this point would not be sensible. Perhaps
the dreams will cease over time as insecurities in the relationship are
dealt with. A warning to take stock and take things slowly.
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>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Martha diChristi dreasm site journal
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:46:56 -0800
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>Dream Title Martha diChristi
>Date of Dream 1958-2000
>Dream http://www.pagepeople.com/dichristi/dreams/
>Over 300 of my dreams listed and indexed in 3 different ways
>Comments by Dreamer
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>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: teeth
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:58:22 -0800
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>Dream Title teeth, singer
>Date of Dream feb 8
>Dream I Just had a simple dream where my teeth kept falling out...
>Comments by Dreamer
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A classic dream. A range of possibilities, but main thrust is a loss of
'grip' on a situation; losing the ability or urge to get one's 'teeth' into
a situation; perhaps the dreamer is unwilling or unable to take a current
position in and digest its implications.
I begin to wonder whether ones hair, teeth and nails might stand in for each
other, and then the implication of one;s 'hair falling out' may be
significant.
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Subject: Keeping Down the Animal, Ike Baine
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:14:49 -0800
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Dream Title Keeping Down the Animal, Ike Baine
Date of Dream Dec 99
Dream I entered a building on a universtiy campus. As I entered I was
confronted with some stairs which I proceeded to climb. As I neared the
top, I became aware of a very energetic and restless cat which was running
up after me. I would occasionally turn round to scare it back down, but it
was persistent. At the top of the stairs, there was a door opening to the
outside. I edged the door open, at which point I was ready to allow the
aggressive cat up the stairs and out into the open.
Comments by Dreamer The cat is a common feature in my dreams. I *love* cats
but don't have one.
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Subject: The Ravaged Foot, Ike Baine
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:15:36 -0800
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Dream Title The Ravaged Foot, Ike Baine
Date of Dream 23/02/00
Dream Three young men were playing around in a house they were living in.
They were role-playing. They each had a weapon, although someone took a
sort of subsidiary role in that they were assigned the role of 'scape
goat'. However in an act of rebellion, the 'scapegoat' got into the bedroom
of one of the others, hiding behind the door. In an act of dream
identification, I merged with the 'scapegoat', but stood behind the door
holding a radio aerial in my hand. The aim was to hit the owner of the
bedroom as he entered, thus getting my strike in first. This was breaking
the rules of the game, as in this role I was supposed to just accept the
beatings. Presently, the bedroom door opened and I lashed out, hitting the
other guy hard. He snatched his hand away, gasping, both surprised and
amazed. He hit me, with his 'aerial', I hit him back.
Eventually, however, we were out on the landing and I had got my right foot
entangled in three kittens, which were biting and scratching it. Indeed the
kittens were now completely locked onto my foot, trapped by their own
strong teeth and claws. It was very painful, and my companions decided that
they would take me in an estate car to the hospital. I was helped out of
the house, limping. Some girls (the next door neighbours from years back,
adolescent years)were watching us, making amused comment, possibly fancying
one or other of us). I sat in the back of the estate car, my butt wedged in
a depression behind some boxes. The pain at this point was actually not
unpleasant, just an intense sensation (perhaps the pain threshold had been
shattered!) However, I realised that the extrication of these kittens was
going to be painful indeed. The kittens were still tightly bound to my feet.
Comments by Dreamer Possibly the cat's clinging to my foot was evoked by
the vet programme I was watching last night where puppies were shown
suckling their mother; also an old episode of Doctor Who where some embryo
Daleks were clinging to Doctor Who's neck, strangling him).
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:32:10 -0000
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Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 05:22
Subject: Digest dream-flow.v001.n250
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> 001 - "Wilkerson, Richard" <rcw - Charlie
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>From: "Wilkerson, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Charlie
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:39:47 -0800
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>Dream Title Charlie
>Date of Dream 22nd Feb
>Dream I dreamt that I was holiday with my family at a lakeside resort. We
>were right on the bank, and in the center of the lake was a island with a
>Chinese building on it. I went to the waters edge, and 5 metallic blue
>dolphins appeared. I slid into the water, and started to swim with them. My
>father tried to take photographs.
>Comments by Dreamer This was a really amazing dream, but I'd really like to
>see what you guys think
Certainly at one level I think the dreamer made a connection with a Chinese
incarnation, possilbly with the realisation that the dreamer's family was
happily involved in that life. The lake would represent the layers of the
unconscious through which the dreamer had to 'swim' (or unconscious
resistance?). At another level the island represented the dreamer; perhaps
there is a feeling of isolation, of 'alienation' from the family. The
feeling that he or she speaks a different language, that connections made to
the outside world or family are somewhat artificial (the dolphins were
constructed and mechanical as opposed to warm, flesh and blood creatures.
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Subject: Sleeping with my mother. Amr
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:41 -0800
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Dream Title Sleeping with my mother. Amr
Date of Dream 2/23/00 between 12:00 am and 6:00 am
Dream I met a man and we have been dating for a little over 2 months. The
other night I had a very vivid dream that my boyfriend slept with my
mother. What could this possibly mean?
Comments by Dreamer I was at my mother's house and she began to tell me
that her and my boyfriend slept together. She proceeded to tell me how
great it was and how she let him shave her and that it was now itching like
crazy. I was absolutely flabbergasted as I am finding myself really liking
this guy. All I can remember after her telling me that is that I cried like
crazy and the next thing I knew I woke up.
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