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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Stay or Go?
From: cymone simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2. Re: The Book of Life
From: sherri lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3. White Light Dreams
From: "trptr25_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4. Re: The Book of Life
From: sherri lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5. Re: White Light Dreams
From: "Gordon Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6. thank you
From: jessica baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7. Re: The Book of Life
From: cymone simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:04:42 -0800 (PST)
From: cymone simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stay or Go?
telling u that he hates u is a form of verbal and emotional abuse. if u know
u deserve to be treated better than dump his ass. all relationships have a
lesson to be learned and it sounds like he did not learn his. if he does ever
learn than it does not seem like it will be done thru you. and it sounds like
to me that he more than deserved to be taken advantage of by his last 2
girlfriends. u said it yourself that he blames others rather than taking
responsibility for his actions. so don't take his word that he was taken
advantage of. as long as people continue to feel sorry for him while he
pretends to be more of a victim than what he is than he will continue his
spoiled behavior and get even worse. that is a form of manipulation and that
is very effective and can be very destructive. if u stay with this guy than
watch yourself and never doubt your instincts. don't be afraid to leave him
just because u put too much time and energy into him too.
Kimberly Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I have a "Boyfriend" that says that he
hates me when he does not get his way. When i try to refuse him any attention
to let him know that I am fed up with his shit he gets really angry. I have
read that man shut woman out as soon as they sound like they are complaining.
Men also tend to be able to focus on only one thing at a time. He has a way to
be really spoiled but has not shown to be sincere about anything that is asked
of him. He always blames others for the bad things. He will not own up to
being wrong. We are both Capicorn so it make this twice as hard. We both are
hard headed and stubborn as hell. I try to let him be in charge but when I am
not treated properly I get very aggressive. I vowed not to ever let a man
totally control me or my life. I am happy with who I am and expect a man to
take me as I am. I will take the man as he wishes to be. I know that things
take time but what if the rage he has get out of control. I will
not tolerate this behavior in my life. I kept
this very short and sweet so as not to loose everyones interest. I hope to find
balance with him but he seems to think I wish to take advantage of him like his
last two girlfriends. I can see this only being half the reason why he chooses
not to open up to cummunicating better with me.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:05:57 -0800 (PST)
From: sherri lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Book of Life
Dear Cymone Simmons,
Thank you for your enlightenment. I have heard of spirit guides but I don't
know much about them. I will try what you say and see what happens. Thank you
for your advice. You sound really in tune with what is going on around you in
the spirit world as well as the physical.
Sherri
cymone simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i don't know if u believe in spirit guides or not but that's what this woman
sounds like to me. she could b an angel too (angels can have brown hair u know)
my niece has brown hair virtually black and i know she's an angel. if u somehow
found a way to get this dream set in motion than u can do it again. keep a pen
and some paper nearby and a soft lite nearby so u don't blind yourself when
trying to jot this info down. dreams help u and inform u even if u can't
remember all the details. your soul remembers everything. if u don't already
have a book on lucid dreaming u might wanna pick one up. it's not necessarily a
disaster that happened it's just that your all lost and looking for help.
that's y you were there with those people. u thought they could help u but they
were all looking for help themselves and that's y you quickly ended up
someplace else.
sherriannlacy wrote:
Before I went to sleep I was trying to put my mind on thinking in my
dreams to look where I was and what was going on. To find any
details that would give me clues.
I was walking in a place I have never been. It felt strange to me.
There was one house and several people that weren't all related. It
was like their had been a disaster and we were all getting together
to help each other out. I was helping to clean the house and I
asked what is going on. I need to know what, when and where and all
of the sudden I was in a different place. It was like a nowhere
place that was just full of really bright light. A women with brown
hair came up to me and told me to look and read right here. I
looked at the book. It was really big, around a foot wide and a
foot long or so. It was white and the writing was in gold. I read
about 5 sentences. The sentences were very short, but got right to
the point of what was happening. It was like the book held all of
the major happenings or all happenings that were past,present and
future. Where she told me to read was in the future and was about
the place I was at. I woke up and tried to remember what I had read
but couldn't. I was really frustrated.
Sherri
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 01:15:53 -0000
From: "trptr25_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: White Light Dreams
Hi All-
My name is Jen, 27yrs old, and am interested in the meanings of
different dreams. A few months ago I had a white light dream that
sparked my interest in astrology & dream intrepretation. From what
I've found this dream has many elements, but if anyone else has any
insight on it please clue me in.
Here we go:
When this dream happened I was listening to a lot of Beethoven music,
and still am but haven't had this type of dream again. I emailed
this (below) to my aunt Caroline who does tarrot card readings and
dream sstuff etc... she was really excited about it, and said my mom
was way offbase. Thoughts?
Hi Caroline,
I had a really weird dream last, one that I completely remember which
is strange as I haven't remembered my dreams in a long time, but my
mom said I should email you to see what you think about it as your
pretty in tune with this kind of stuff. Patrick had a hard time
falling asleep last night too, and it was well after 11 when he fell
asleep. I went to bed around midnight, and remember this bright
white light that was in my bedroom, and on my face. I could not make
it go away. I think I was half asleep and half awake and the light
at one point was on my face under my eye as I remember opening and
closing my eyes to get it to go away so I could get to sleep. It was
bright white like a piece of paper, or super bright light bulb. I
rolled over a few times, opened and closed my eyes, but I saw it come
back into the room when I was awake and I opened my eyes� It came
from the direction of my bedroom window was and was all over the
room � I thought it was a car at first, but after several times of
waking up and rolling over I could see it come back in � it was in my
face as I was looking around, and it landed under my eye. I remember
closing my eyes and could not get it to go away. Like when you close
your eyes normally and you see black, and I remember closing my eyes
and it was all white. All I could see was bright white, and I wasn't
asleep yet. I remember looking at myself and the bright light went
away, and I was looking at myself it looked like a small star, it
looked like a star- the color and size were right on, and it was on
my face I could feel it under my eye- like it wanted to see me, or
for me to see it, and I was in the white light at the same time I was
looking myself. It took over the room somehow and I was in it. I
wasn't afraid it was just really weird. Then I had this really weird
dream where I was looking at myself with this thing on my face, it
looked like a star, and then I looked up at the night sky and seeing
thousand of stars. I don't remember where I was I couldn't place it,
but I was floating somewhere and looking at the stars in the sky.
There was a patch of stars that changed shape and I had to struggle
to see as they were far away, but changed into different numbers. I
remember it changed several times, and I saw this patch of stars
change into the number 76 or 72 or 74 and then I definitely remember
the number 80. Maybe I've had too much coffee this morning but my
hands are shaking while I'm typing this email. I had total control
of what I was doing in this dream �I was flying around, and could
change my direction if I wanted to go up or down. I could look
around in the direction I wanted and I remember flying down and
having this falling feeling, but it was okay as I was then flying
over what looked like a desert. I could flip over, roll over while I
was flying� it was weird. I ended up in the ocean that was next to
the desert, and it was nighttime and there was nothing else around.
Still couldn't place where I was and didn't see anything else but
water. I was in the water, and ended up floating on my back in big
swells of water, and there were no stars when I looked up. They were
not breaking as waves do just big swells like in the middle of the
ocean and I was just floating on them. I remember flying again, and
then I do not remember anything after that. Patrick came into my
bedroom in the middle of the ocean part, and I woke up and he came
into my bed to sleep with me. When that happened it was like I
hadn't really fallen asleep in the first place I was in this weird
dream, and then I fell back asleep and do not remember dreaming
anything after that. I was really tired this morning though like I
didn't get any sleep. It was like I was awake but was really half
asleep when the light was in my room. It was so bright I couldn't
see what time it was � felt like I was in a time warp as I could not
make out any objects in my room� like I went somewhere, but I
remember waking up and looking around and the light just poured in
the room, and then I was off floating looking at the stars. I
remember rolling around in my bed and seeing a few objects in my
room, but do not recall seeing anything after the light was there.
What does that mean? My mom said it is a symbol for death- not
something I wanted to hear this morning. I thought the white light
was a protector. What was strange is that I have not remembered my
dreams in a long time and this one is vivid� I can replay/remember
and see it again.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:18:36 -0800 (PST)
From: sherri lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Book of Life
Thank you Kelly for the kind words.
Love, Light and Laughter to you also.
Sherri
Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Sherri,
Try not to force remembering the dream, because even if you don't
consciously recall, it's there lurking in your subconscious somewhere! I
know it's frustrating, and that probably doesn't help much (sorry) but I
believe you do know at some (soul?) level. Trust... and have faith...
because you did remember part of it...and maybe that's all that was meant to
be remembered?
Hope this helps...
~In love, light and laughter,
Kelly~
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:55:52 -0800
From: "Gordon Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: White Light Dreams
Hi Jen,
There seem to be very strong "archetypes" in your dream. Since it's your dream
it may have specific meanings to you that are different from anyone else's & I
prefer to interpret using the accepted "if this were my dream" format rather
than telling you what it meant, so here's my shot at it: If this were my
dream, I'd look first at the flying imagery since it's so prevalent throughout.
I'd imagine it may be a form of out-of-body experience (OBE) since I have lots
of them in dreams & visionary states. I have zillions of flying dreams and have
for as long as I can remember, so I'd assume this was another time in which I
was able to transcend the perceived limitations of the human body & go
traveling about the universe. I find flying dreams exhilarating, once I got
past an early fear of them & let myself enjoy the freeing sensation they always
bring me. I also dream a lot about water, and if this were my dream I would
imagine the ocean may be telling me about my processing of human emotion, which
they say water often represents. I might see floating on the swells as fairly
comfortably riding the crest of human emotions, or perhaps of the human
condition itself.
About the white light, well, yes, people who have near death experiences (NDE)
do seem to almost always see a white light at some point, but if this were my
dream, since I see white light a lot in dreams & I'm still here, I would assume
this to be more a message about my eternal light nature than an ominous message
about my coming demise. I find I usually feel comforted by the presence of
white light, and sometimes it does show up in the oddest ways or at strange
times in dreams. I love the light & don't find it frightening at all any more.
If I saw as much of it as you did, apparently in & out of the dream state, I'd
say I was having a pretty definitive "expansion of consciousness" experience &
I might anticipate some related "psychic openings" to follow. .. but we can
each control those things. The fact that you had so much control in the dream,
as in flyiing sequences, would seem to be a very positive aspect, almost like
lucid dreaming where one decides how they want a dream to process. When I have
that kind of control in a dream, I feel very connected with my soul, or with
that other part that I believe guides our dream process. .. Numerologists might
have fun with your numbers .. but if it were my dream I would look at different
things to which they might refer, often for me they're dates or ages. Just a
thought since you're 27, you would have been born within that year range,
between '72 & '80 .. could refer in part to something that occurred for you in
'80 since you say you remember it clearly .. sometimes locations, street
addresses, room numbers, etc. etc. .. you might see if anything resonates with
you. .. All in all, if this were my dream I'd take it as a very positive
experience .. maybe I will be lucky enough to have such vivid imagery myself
tonight. ... hope this may be helpful to you.
Gordon
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From: trptr25_2003
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: [dream-flow] White Light Dreams
Hi All-
My name is Jen, 27yrs old, and am interested in the meanings of
different dreams. A few months ago I had a white light dream that
sparked my interest in astrology & dream intrepretation. From what
I've found this dream has many elements, but if anyone else has any
insight on it please clue me in.
Here we go:
When this dream happened I was listening to a lot of Beethoven music,
and still am but haven't had this type of dream again. I emailed
this (below) to my aunt Caroline who does tarrot card readings and
dream sstuff etc... she was really excited about it, and said my mom
was way offbase. Thoughts?
Hi Caroline,
I had a really weird dream last, one that I completely remember which
is strange as I haven't remembered my dreams in a long time, but my
mom said I should email you to see what you think about it as your
pretty in tune with this kind of stuff. Patrick had a hard time
falling asleep last night too, and it was well after 11 when he fell
asleep. I went to bed around midnight, and remember this bright
white light that was in my bedroom, and on my face. I could not make
it go away. I think I was half asleep and half awake and the light
at one point was on my face under my eye as I remember opening and
closing my eyes to get it to go away so I could get to sleep. It was
bright white like a piece of paper, or super bright light bulb. I
rolled over a few times, opened and closed my eyes, but I saw it come
back into the room when I was awake and I opened my eyes. It came
from the direction of my bedroom window was and was all over the
room - I thought it was a car at first, but after several times of
waking up and rolling over I could see it come back in - it was in my
face as I was looking around, and it landed under my eye. I remember
closing my eyes and could not get it to go away. Like when you close
your eyes normally and you see black, and I remember closing my eyes
and it was all white. All I could see was bright white, and I wasn't
asleep yet. I remember looking at myself and the bright light went
away, and I was looking at myself it looked like a small star, it
looked like a star- the color and size were right on, and it was on
my face I could feel it under my eye- like it wanted to see me, or
for me to see it, and I was in the white light at the same time I was
looking myself. It took over the room somehow and I was in it. I
wasn't afraid it was just really weird. Then I had this really weird
dream where I was looking at myself with this thing on my face, it
looked like a star, and then I looked up at the night sky and seeing
thousand of stars. I don't remember where I was I couldn't place it,
but I was floating somewhere and looking at the stars in the sky.
There was a patch of stars that changed shape and I had to struggle
to see as they were far away, but changed into different numbers. I
remember it changed several times, and I saw this patch of stars
change into the number 76 or 72 or 74 and then I definitely remember
the number 80. Maybe I've had too much coffee this morning but my
hands are shaking while I'm typing this email. I had total control
of what I was doing in this dream -I was flying around, and could
change my direction if I wanted to go up or down. I could look
around in the direction I wanted and I remember flying down and
having this falling feeling, but it was okay as I was then flying
over what looked like a desert. I could flip over, roll over while I
was flying. it was weird. I ended up in the ocean that was next to
the desert, and it was nighttime and there was nothing else around.
Still couldn't place where I was and didn't see anything else but
water. I was in the water, and ended up floating on my back in big
swells of water, and there were no stars when I looked up. They were
not breaking as waves do just big swells like in the middle of the
ocean and I was just floating on them. I remember flying again, and
then I do not remember anything after that. Patrick came into my
bedroom in the middle of the ocean part, and I woke up and he came
into my bed to sleep with me. When that happened it was like I
hadn't really fallen asleep in the first place I was in this weird
dream, and then I fell back asleep and do not remember dreaming
anything after that. I was really tired this morning though like I
didn't get any sleep. It was like I was awake but was really half
asleep when the light was in my room. It was so bright I couldn't
see what time it was - felt like I was in a time warp as I could not
make out any objects in my room. like I went somewhere, but I
remember waking up and looking around and the light just poured in
the room, and then I was off floating looking at the stars. I
remember rolling around in my bed and seeing a few objects in my
room, but do not recall seeing anything after the light was there.
What does that mean? My mom said it is a symbol for death- not
something I wanted to hear this morning. I thought the white light
was a protector. What was strange is that I have not remembered my
dreams in a long time and this one is vivid. I can replay/remember
and see it again.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:09:37 -0800 (PST)
From: jessica baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: thank you
well thank you very much for your advice. i have talked to this long term
boyfriend of mine and told him how i felt and about this other guy. he was very
upset. but now hes moving closer to be with me. which is great. but what should
i do about this other guy?
thank you
jessica
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:19:46 -0800 (PST)
From: cymone simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Book of Life
i only believe in spirits cuz i used to see then when younger. now
exceptionally rare if i do. i sometimes hear them. i most often feel them. i
don't know who they are. sometimes it's a few, sometimes many. they feel
like waves of energy that u can see when heat is rising off the hood of a car.
if a had to imagine what they would look like than that would be it spirits
without form. but still visible as waves of energy. we are all spirtis and we
are all energy. when u see people as spiritual beings rather than physical
they are far less threatening. especially if u don't like someone and are
afraid to stand up for what's right.
sherri lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Cymone Simmons,
Thank you for your enlightenment. I have heard of spirit guides but I don't
know much about them. I will try what you say and see what happens. Thank you
for your advice. You sound really in tune with what is going on around you in
the spirit world as well as the physical.
Sherri
cymone simmons wrote:
i don't know if u believe in spirit guides or not but that's what this woman
sounds like to me. she could b an angel too (angels can have brown hair u know)
my niece has brown hair virtually black and i know she's an angel. if u somehow
found a way to get this dream set in motion than u can do it again. keep a pen
and some paper nearby and a soft lite nearby so u don't blind yourself when
trying to jot this info down. dreams help u and inform u even if u can't
remember all the details. your soul remembers everything. if u don't already
have a book on lucid dreaming u might wanna pick one up. it's not necessarily a
disaster that happened it's just that your all lost and looking for help.
that's y you were there with those people. u thought they could help u but they
were all looking for help themselves and that's y you quickly ended up
someplace else.
sherriannlacy wrote:
Before I went to sleep I was trying to put my mind on thinking in my
dreams to look where I was and what was going on. To find any
details that would give me clues.
I was walking in a place I have never been. It felt strange to me.
There was one house and several people that weren't all related. It
was like their had been a disaster and we were all getting together
to help each other out. I was helping to clean the house and I
asked what is going on. I need to know what, when and where and all
of the sudden I was in a different place. It was like a nowhere
place that was just full of really bright light. A women with brown
hair came up to me and told me to look and read right here. I
looked at the book. It was really big, around a foot wide and a
foot long or so. It was white and the writing was in gold. I read
about 5 sentences. The sentences were very short, but got right to
the point of what was happening. It was like the book held all of
the major happenings or all happenings that were past,present and
future. Where she told me to read was in the future and was about
the place I was at. I woke up and tried to remember what I had read
but couldn't. I was really frustrated.
Sherri
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