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      1. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      2. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: Perry Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      3. DREAM I:  SIDDHA YOGI GIVES RASA POWER.....
           From: "Rasa Von Werder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      4. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      5. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      6. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      7. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      8. Re: what will the dream tell me about the group
           From: kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 1         
   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:43:32 -0800 (PST)
   From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we can just give wisdom, and yes you helped 
me get me back on track with God,,, i Got baptised and got has shown me the 
light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent me here to answer alot of dreams as 
well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, 
And let not the enemy,,, Get in the way,,,,, John3:3 "I tell you the truth, 
unless one is Born again, he cannot be in the Kingdom of God",,,, Every time 
the holy spirit ask me to respond ,,,,,, I pray before it is sent,,,,,, the 
darkeness,, may turn it light,,,, and open there eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, 
that God has asked me to do,,,,, And being obedient,,,, is the will of 
God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people here,, just want to hear the 
truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, Mountains Move,,,,,,, 
   
  A servent from God,,,,
  Godbless Kerri,,,,,,

kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
body.



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Message: 2         
   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:19:40 -0800
   From: Perry Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

Uh oh.  Here we go.  Just like in dreams, your perceptions don't tell us 
anything about the "reality" you are perceiving, they tell us about you. 
And just like in dreams, we all feel the need to follow _*our own  
*_light/way/God/path/psyche.  Prescribing for others is really not the 
purpose of this group, as I see it, and I'm new here.  Speak your 
truth.  Please remember it's just your truth, is is about you, no one 
else.  I seem to be off track.  Perhaps the Moderator can cut in for the 
next dance?  One point.  Your dream tells you nothing about the group.  
It tells you about you.  That's it. 

Be well

Perry


nani kalama wrote:

> You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we can just give wisdom, and yes 
> you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i Got baptised and got 
> has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent me here to 
> answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
> time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the 
> way,,,,, John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he 
> cannot be in the Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me 
> to respond ,,,,,, I pray before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may 
> turn it light,,,, and open there eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that 
> God has asked me to do,,,,, And being obedient,,,, is the will of 
> God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people here,, just want to 
> hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, Mountains Move,,,,,,,
>   
>   A servent from God,,,,
>   Godbless Kerri,,,,,,
>
> kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>   ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
> been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
> going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
> spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
> was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
> people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
> spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
> right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
> much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
> start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
> i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
> going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
> the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
> keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
> this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
> and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
> body.
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Message: 3         
   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:25:57 -0000
   From: "Rasa Von Werder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DREAM I:  SIDDHA YOGI GIVES RASA POWER.....

DREAM I:  SIDDHA YOGI GIVES RASA POWER.....

DREAM 2:  ANGEL GIVES RASA ASSISTANCE

http://www.womanthouartgod.com/dreamsvisions.php

© Rasa Von Werder 2006

3/25/06

There are two parts to this dream.  Part I is the Yogi who gives me
power, and part two, the Homeless Man who turns out to be a Cop.

SIDDHA YOGI TAKES ME UP IN PLANE AND MAKES LOVE TO ME

I am taken in a plane by the late great movie star, Clark Gable.  This
plane is round like a bubble or a helicopter, but there is no noise. 
I have to trust him completely as the pilot, (as planes are
dangerous), and I do.

He makes sure the shades are drawn so I do not see outside, as the
geatness of the height could scare me.  The shades seem rather green
(there are more than one window) but from around the shades I do see
bright light, along the edges.

The idea was that I had to trust Clark Gable completely - but what
happens next surprizes me.  I get the feeling of great love from him,
perhaps his being 'in love' with me, and he now makes love to me from
the back - puts his penis into my vagina.  As I said, the feeling is
love, not lust.  

But when we land there is a problem.  I notice that Clark Gable put
his sperm into the left cop of my bra, and I do not want this small
crowd of people waiting for us, sort of, to see it before I clean it out.

I am stooping down somewhere, removing the sperm, and I see this band
of people who love us walking toward us, almost skipping or running,
some of them.  There are kids here and some who are naiive, and I do
not want them to see this sexual evidence as they would not understand.

It is worthy to note that these people were around us before we took
off.  They are kind of our clique or 'circle of well wishers.'

I am trying to remove the sperm but cannot do it fast.  The bra I am
attending to is like puffed out cups in a sort of blue/white print. 
The left cup has like a see-through custard, a few tablespoons of it.
 It is not disgusting or slimy, but a stiff translucent sort of thing.

These well wishers are male and female.  The strongest thing I can
recall about the plane is the powerful trust I had to have and how
much Clark Gable loved me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
THE HOMELESS MAN WHO TURNS OUT TO BE A COP WHO LOVES ME

It is night, and I am at the farm.  I decide to go for a walk and at
one point it seems I have my dogs with me, while at another point it
seems like I don't.

I walk to the far field, right by the street, to the farthest corner
of the field.  There I am shocked to see a cardboard enclosure, like
walls made of corrugated cardboard, and I believe this to be a
homeless person finding shelter here, on my property.  I quickly turn
away and hurry back, because homeless people can be dangerous.  And
now I am thinking it's a good thing I did not bring my dogs, because
this man has dogs also.

I see dogs that are grey and goldeny, seemingly wild.  They are small,
no more than 30 pounds each, and they are sleek like foxes, and there
are about 5 or 6 of them.  I was afraid if my dogs had been here they
might have gotten it on.  These dogs run from the cardboard enclosure
in the direction I am going, toward my house.

When I get to my house, somehow, I meet the homeless man.  He turns
out to be a cop!  He is nothing like what I expected.  He is clean and
clean shaven, and seems to be wearing a black slouch leather cap -
something like that.  He is a special person, not a bum. He explains
himself to me.  The idea was he came to my property to somehow protect
me and he is sort of a detective also.

Now we  are inside the house. In the house that same group of people
were around who greeted us when Clark Gable and I landed.

At first, the cop and I relate privately, the group is not around.  I
am reclining in a seat close to this counter, and my feet are resting
on the counter.  The cop is to my left and he is attending to my feet,
which are covered in size 12 black shoes which lace up.  They are
huge!  He is lacing the right one lovingly.  It is an act of devotion,
and he is rather kneeling or stooping by my left side.  

However, I tell him not to do that in front of people, because the
circle of friends is gathering here to the right, and they do not
understand.  They knew my 'true love' and might think I am 'two
timing' with this other person!  

I see them standing on the right, with stony, serious faces, as they
do not know what to make of this.

I explain to them that I thought this man was homeless but he turned
out to be a cop and he is helping me.  I try to make them see he is
alright and our relationship is good.

I do notice one lady is thin and has on a dull green dress.  

The feeling here overall is one of surprize that God has sent me this
helpful person.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
MEANING OF DREAMS

Parentheses indicate excerpts from dreams (E.D.)


SIDDHA YOGI TAKES ME UP IN PLANE AND MAKES LOVE TO ME

I am taken in a plane by the late great movie star, Clark Gable.

***  CLARK GABLE, HANDSOME MOVE STAR:

I sense this is a siddha yogi, and probably Baba Multananda.  There
will be logic here as I explain the meaning of the dream in the end.

When I was close to Muktananda for 2 1/2 months in a deep sadhana, he
usually appeared to me as handsome movie stars.  But there is also
another connection in the meaning of this dream lower down.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AIRPLANE, ROUND LIKE BUBBLE OR HELICOPTER

'This plane is round like a bubble or a helicopter, but there is no
noise.  I have to trust him completely as the pilot, (as planes are
dangerous), and I do.'

***   THE PLANE OR BUBBLE IS THE IMAGE OR ENCLOSURE IN GRACE.  IT IS A
SPIRITUAL VEHICLE.  WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, I HAVE TO TRUST MUKTANANDA TO
CONTROL WHAT IS GOING ON, AND I DO.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HEIGHT, GREAT  *  SHADES CLOSED -PROTECTION FROM SEEING HEIGHT

'He makes sure the shades are drawn so I do not see outside, as the
geatness of the height could scare me.  The shades seem rather green
(there are more than one window) but from around the shades I do see
bright light, along the edges.'

***  Here the saint has me in a place of possibility of danger and
distress, but I must trust him that nothing bad will happen.  The
shades being drawn is like having my eyes closed, because the lids of
the eyes are shades.  And so, this would be my conscious mind being
closed, or I am unconsious of how fearful and dangerous things are. 
He is seeing to it that I do not succumb to any fear.

Seeing the LIGHT so powerful around the edges is that I had some
indication of how great a light we were in, the greatness of the grace
of God in this situation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SEX FROM BACK, PENIS IN VAGINA, LOVE, NOT LUST

'The idea was that I had to trust Clark Gable completely - but what
happens next surprizes me.  I get the feeling of great love from him,
perhaps his being 'in love' with me, and he now makes love to me from
the back - puts his penis into my vagina.  As I said, the feeling is
love, not lust.

***  LOVE 'FROM THE BACK' INDICATES A SORT OF SECRET.  AS BEING 'IN
FRONT' OR 'UP FRONT' IS AN OBVIOUS THING.  BUT BEING 'FROM THE BACK'
SOUNDS LIKE 'UNDER THE TABLE'.  SO FROM THE BACK, ONE IS NOT FACING
THE ONE WHO IS MAKING LOVE TO HER, AND NOT SEEING HIS FACE OR
IDENTITY.  IT IS TRUE THAT I HAD NO CLUE THAT A SIDDHA YOGI, DOUBTLESS
MUKTANANDA, WAS HELPING ME IN THIS AFFAIR.

THE PENIS REPRESENTS THE FUNNEL OF GRACE, AND MY VAGINA THE RECEPTOR
OF GRACE.

THE LOVE IS SPIRITUAL LOVE POWER THAT IS BEING TRANSMITTED TO ME. 
THERE IS NO LUST IN SPIRITUALITY.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SPERM IN LEFT CUP OF MY BRA  

'But when we land there is a problem.  I notice that Clark Gable put
his sperm into the left cup of my bra, and I do not want this small
crowd of people waiting for us, sort of, to see it before I clean it out.'

***  THIS SHOWS ANOTHER VERSION OF THE TRANSMISSION OF GRACE, INTO MY
HEART.  THE LEFT CUP IS THE LEFT BREAST, THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CHEST OR
BREAST REPRESENTS HEART.  AND SO, THE GRACE HAS BEEN PUT INTO MY
HEART.  THIS INDICATES THAT LOVE POWER WAS PUT INTO MY HEART BY
MUKTANANDA TO DEAL WITH THIS AFFAIR.

(ONE MIGHT ASK WHY THE HEART, WHY NOT THE HEAD?....GRACE CAN BE PLACED
INTO ANY CHAKRA, HEART, HEAD, MULADHARA, AJNA, WHATEVER.  WHERE IT IS
PLACED INDICATES CONTEXT AND MEANING.

I WILL NOT TELL YOU THE SECRET OF WHY MUKTANANDA HELPED ME IN A
HARDSHIP.  ABOUT A YEAR AGO I SERVED MUKTANANDA BY WRITING TO A
HOSTILE GROUP, A GROUP THAT WAS TEARING HIM APART WITH HATE.  THIS
GROUP ALSO HATED ME.  IT IS CALLED EX_SYDA, WHERE A GROUP OF
MALCONTENTS WHO FEEL THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED RAIL FORTH AGAINST YOGA,
YOGIS AND ASHRAMS.  THEY HAD A SPECIAL SPLEEN FOR MUKTANANDA, BECAUSE
HE HAD HAD SEX WITH YOUNG DEVOTEES.

MUKTANANDA ASKED ME TO SPEAK FOR HIM TO THIS GROUP, THAT HE WAS SORRY
FOR HIS SINS, AND THAT HE WAS NOW IN HEAVEN AND CAPABLE OF RENDERING
HELP TO THOSE WHO ASKED FOR IT.  I KNEW THIS MESSAGE WOULD BE MET WITH
GREAT HOSTILITY, BUT I GAVE IT.  I GAVE IT FOR THE LOVE OF MUKTANANDA.
 HE TOLD ME HE OWED ME ONE.

THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE SYMBOL OF LOVE.  I HELPED MUKTANANDA BASED ON
LOVE, AND MUKTANANDA HELPED ME BASED ON LOVE.

I ALSO STUCK UP FOR MUKTANANDA ON ANOTHER GROUP, SOMETHING LIKE SIDDHA
YOGA, WHERE I WAS SEVERELY ATTACKED BY THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE.

THE THIRD GO-AROUND OF ATTACKS CAME ON GURU RATINGS IN THE 'SARLO
WAR'.  FOR THE THIRD TIME I WAS SEVERELY ATTACKED BY THESE AND OTHERS,
WHO GATHERED AROUND ME TO DESTROY.  THIS DREAM AND THE ONE FOLLOWING
EXPLAINS THE PRESENCE OF A SAINT AND AN ANGEL, SENT BY GOD FOR MY
EMPOWERMENT.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
SPERM, PRESENCE IN MY BRA CUP, PEOPLE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND


'I am stooping down somewhere, removing the sperm, and I see this band
of people who love us walking toward us, almost skipping or running,
some of them.  There are kids here and some who are naiive, and I do
not want them to see this sexual evidence as they would not understand.

It is worthy to note that these people were around us before we took
off.  They are kind of our clique or 'circle of well wishers.'

I am trying to remove the sperm but cannot do it fast.  The bra I am
attending to is like puffed out cups in a sort of blue/white print. 
The left cup has like a see-through custard, a few tablespoons of it.
 It is not disgusting or slimy, but a stiff translucent sort of thing.
These well wishers are male and female. 

The strongest thing I can recall about the plane is the powerful trust
I had to have and how much Clark Gable loved me.'

***   SINCE THIS SPERM IS NO MORE AND NO LESS THAN GRACE, IT PRESENTS
HERE THE ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND.  SURROUNDING ME ARE
MY FRIENDS AND WELL WISHERS, YET THIS TRUTH IS HIDDEN TO THEM - THAT I
HAVE BEEN EMPOWERED BY SAINTS LIKE MUKTANANDA DO FIGHT THIS BATTLE!

ACCORDING TO THIS THEY ARE YOUNG, NAIIVE, WHICH MEANS INEXPERIENCED,
LACKING UNDERSTANDING IN SUCH MATTERS.  THEY JUST CAN'T SEE IT EVEN
THOUGH THEY LOVE MYSELF AND THE SAINTS.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THE HOMELESS MAN WHO TURNS OUT TO BE A COP WHO LOVES ME

NIGHT * FARM

'It is night, and I am at the farm.'

***   I AM IN A PLACE OF UNAWARENESS (night), AND AT THE THEATER OF
SUFFERING. (personal symbol, the farm where I was abused)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DOGS

'I decide to go for a walk and at one point it seems I have my dogs
with me, while at another point it seems like I don't.'

***  MY INNER SENSES PICK UP SOMETHING, YET AT ANOTHER TIME, SEEM NOT
TO PICK UP ANYTHING.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HOMELESS PERSON * CARDBOARD SHELTER


I walk to the far field, right by the street, to the farthest corner
of the field.  There I am shocked to see a cardboard enclosure, like
walls made of corrugated cardboard, and I believe this to be a
homeless person finding shelter here, on my property.  I quickly turn
away and hurry back, because homeless people can be dangerous.  And
now I am thinking it's a good thing I did not bring my dogs, because
this man has dogs also.

***  A MAN APPEARED, OUT OF NOWHERE, IN MY LIFE OR DOMAIN, WHO I WAS
NOT SURE OF, NOT KNOWING HIS IDENTITY. FRIEND OR FOE?  

HOMELESS REFERS USUALLY TO DEMONS, DOWN AND OUTERS, THE MENTALLY ILL,
THOSE WHO CANNOT MAKE IT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.  INDEED THEY CAN
BE DANGEROUS.  IN DREAMS THEY ARE USUALLY DEMONICS.

THE CARDBOARD SHELTER REFERS TO SOMETHING BUILT THAT IS NOT
SUBSTANTIAL.  ON THE INTERNET, THIS WAS A BLOG THAT SUDDENLY APPEARED,
WHICH WAS AGAINST MY ENEMIES, AND THE LINKS WERE SENT TO ME.

I SAW THIS THING AS NOT BEING 'SUBSTANTIAL' IN THE SENSE THAT IT WAS
NOT A MAJOR SITE, NOT WELL KNOWN, NOT THERE LONG.  BUT HERE IT WAS. 
WHAT DID IT MEAN, GOOD OR BAD?  MOSTLY I FELT IT TO BE GOOD.  BUT I
WASN'T SURE AS THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO BUILT IT WAS NOT REVEALED.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DOGS - GREY AND GOLDENY, SLEEK LIKE FOXES

'I see dogs that are grey and goldeny, seemingly wild.  They are
small, no more than 30 pounds each, and they are sleek like foxes, and
there are about 5 or 6 of them.  I was afraid if my dogs had been here
they might have gotten it on.  These dogs run from the cardboard
enclosure in the direction I am going, toward my house.'

***  THIS PERSON, WHO HAS NOW ENTERED MY LIFE, IS CLEVER LIKE A FOX. 
THE GOLD IS LOVE, THE GREY IS HIS MIND.  HE HAS A SMART AND LOVING
ATTITUDE.  HE HAS A KEEN SENSE OF REALITY, OF BASIC INSTINCTS.  (WILD)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
COP * POLICE OFFICER * BLACK LEATHER SLOUCH CAP


'When I get to my house, somehow, I meet the homeless man.  He turns
out to be a cop!  He is nothing like what I expected.  He is clean and
clean shaven, and seems to be wearing a black slouch leather cap -
something like that.  He is a special person, not a bum. He explains
himself to me.  The idea was he came to my property to somehow protect
me and he is sort of a detective also.'

***   THIS PERSON IS AN 'ANGEL' WHICH MEANS, HE IS SENT BY GOD AND THE
SPIRIT OF AN ANGEL IS IN HIM.

(NOTABLE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT STORIES ARE MANY ANGELS APPEARING AS
HUMANS.  THIS IS GOD SENDING SUCH PEOPLE TO US, AND ANGELS ARE
EMBODIED IN THEM.  I HAVE ENCOUNTERED THEM A FEW TIMES IN MY LIFE,
PERHAPS MUCH MORE THAN I AM AWARE OF.  I IMAGINE OTHERS HAVE AS WELL.)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

FEET,  * SHOES LARGE BLACK THAT COP * KNEELS AND LACES FOR ME * FEET
RESTING ON COUNTER

'Now we  are inside the house. In the house that same group of people
were around who greeted us when Clark Gable and I landed.

At first, the cop and I relate privately, the group is not around.  I
am reclining in a seat close to this counter, and my feet are resting
on the counter.  The cop is to my left and he is attending to my feet,
which are covered in size 12 black shoes which lace up.  They are
huge!  He is lacing the right one lovingly.  It is an act of devotion,
and he is rather kneeling or stooping by my left side.

***  THE FEET AND SHOES ARE THE FEET AND SHOES OF THE GURU, WHICH MANY
CONSIDER ITEMS OF DEVOTION.

THE LACING IS AN ACT OF DEVOTION, WHERE ST. JOHN SAID OF JESUS, THAT
HE WAS NOT FIT TO LACE HIS SANDALS (LIKE A SERVANT) BUT THAT HE, JOHN,
WAS A PROPHET WHILE JESUS, HE INTIMATED, WAS THE MESSIAH.

THE FEET 'RESTING' INDICATES THE HEAT OF THE BATTLE IS OVER, AND I
HAVE PUT MY FEET 'UP' AS PEOPLE USUALLY DO, AFTER A 'HARD DAY'S WORK.'

HIS ACT OF STOOPING OR KNEELING AND ATTENDING TO THE SHOES IS THE ACT
OF DEVOTION AND FAITH IN ME AS SPIRITUAL GURU.

THE LARGNESS AND BLACKNESS OF THE SHOES, SIZE 12, IS THE OVERSIZED
MISSION, THE HARDSHIP OF IT.  AND PERHAPS ALSO, THE MYSTERY OF IT.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
PRIVATE OK, NOT PUBLIC DEVOTION


'However, I tell him not to do that in front of people, because the
circle of friends is gathering here to the right, and they do not
understand.  They knew my 'true love' and might think I am 'two
timing' with this other person!  

I see them standing on the right, with stony, serious faces, as they
do not know what to make of this.'

***   THIS INDICATES THAT THIS DEVOTION SHOULD REMAIN PRIVATE, NOT
PUBLIC, AS PEOPLE - EVEN MY OWN FOLLOWERS - WOULD SOMEHOW MISCONSTRUE
THE SITUATION.

THEY MIGHT SEE IT AS SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY RATHER THAN GOD AND
SPIRITUAL LOVE.  BEING UNTRUE TO GOD, THAT IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DISCUSSIONS HERE AND:

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Message: 4         
   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:32:37 -0800 (PST)
   From: kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

im so glad that you understand. i was glad to see your post email,it made me 
smile and made my day.and i am so into god as well i got baptised when i was a 
kid and will never forget the day i did and god showed up at my baptisim.i seen 
his spirit beside me and telling me not to be scared.if you was  there with me 
you would of seen him to. i am going to share some dreams that i had of god and 
the angels.and beeing awake  seeing them beside me watching over me.i see them 
in spiritways as well they dont forget us people that loves them so and 
preshate them to whom they are.and god sents me to the people thats needs the 
most.god bless you.from kerri 

nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we 
can just give wisdom, and yes you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i 
Got baptised and got has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent 
me here to answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the way,,,,, 
John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he cannot be in the 
Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me to respond ,,,,,, I pray 
before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may turn it light,,,, and open there 
eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that God has asked me to do,,,,, And being 
obedient,,,, is the will of God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people 
here,, just want to hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, 
Mountains Move,,,,,,, 
   
  A servent from God,,,,
  Godbless Kerri,,,,,,

kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
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   From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

it is the will of God that i speak the truth,,,, and and Jesus is the 
truth,,,,,,,,

Perry Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Uh oh.  Here we go.  Just like in 
dreams, your perceptions don't tell us 
anything about the "reality" you are perceiving, they tell us about you. 
And just like in dreams, we all feel the need to follow _*our own  
*_light/way/God/path/psyche.  Prescribing for others is really not the 
purpose of this group, as I see it, and I'm new here.  Speak your 
truth.  Please remember it's just your truth, is is about you, no one 
else.  I seem to be off track.  Perhaps the Moderator can cut in for the 
next dance?  One point.  Your dream tells you nothing about the group.  
It tells you about you.  That's it. 

Be well

Perry


nani kalama wrote:

> You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we can just give wisdom, and yes 
> you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i Got baptised and got 
> has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent me here to 
> answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
> time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the 
> way,,,,, John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he 
> cannot be in the Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me 
> to respond ,,,,,, I pray before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may 
> turn it light,,,, and open there eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that 
> God has asked me to do,,,,, And being obedient,,,, is the will of 
> God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people here,, just want to 
> hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, Mountains Move,,,,,,,
>   
>   A servent from God,,,,
>   Godbless Kerri,,,,,,
>
> kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>   ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
> been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
> going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
> spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
> was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
> people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
> spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
> right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
> much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
> start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
> i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
> going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
> the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
> keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
> this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
> and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
> body.
>
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   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:29:52 -0800 (PST)
   From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

Praise God,,, that is so awesome,,,that last email,, is a second 
confirmation,,,,,,, For what the Lord,,,,, is saying,,,,,, he sends his 
vessels,,,, to be an example.......And to show,, the greatness of what he can 
do through (him)!!! keep smiling,,,, For you are in are in right standing with 
God,,,,,,,, 
   
  nani

kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  im so glad that you understand. i was glad to see your post email,it made me 
smile and made my day.and i am so into god as well i got baptised when i was a 
kid and will never forget the day i did and god showed up at my baptisim.i seen 
his spirit beside me and telling me not to be scared.if you was  there with me 
you would of seen him to. i am going to share some dreams that i had of god and 
the angels.and beeing awake  seeing them beside me watching over me.i see them 
in spiritways as well they dont forget us people that loves them so and 
preshate them to whom they are.and god sents me to the people thats needs the 
most.god bless you.from kerri 

nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we 
can just give wisdom, and yes you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i 
Got baptised and got has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent 
me here to answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the way,,,,, 
John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he cannot be in the 
Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me to respond ,,,,,, I pray 
before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may turn it light,,,, and open there 
eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that God has asked me to do,,,,, And being 
obedient,,,, is the will of God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people 
here,, just want to hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, 
Mountains Move,,,,,,, 
   
  A servent from God,,,,
  Godbless Kerri,,,,,,

kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
body.



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   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:29:57 -0800 (PST)
   From: nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

Praise God,,, that is so awesome,,,that last email,, is a second 
confirmation,,,,,,, For what the Lord,,,,, is saying,,,,,, he sends his 
vessels,,,, to be an example.......And to show,, the greatness of what he can 
do through (him)!!! keep smiling,,,, For you are in are in right standing with 
God,,,,,,,, 
   
  nani

kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  im so glad that you understand. i was glad to see your post email,it made me 
smile and made my day.and i am so into god as well i got baptised when i was a 
kid and will never forget the day i did and god showed up at my baptisim.i seen 
his spirit beside me and telling me not to be scared.if you was  there with me 
you would of seen him to. i am going to share some dreams that i had of god and 
the angels.and beeing awake  seeing them beside me watching over me.i see them 
in spiritways as well they dont forget us people that loves them so and 
preshate them to whom they are.and god sents me to the people thats needs the 
most.god bless you.from kerri 

nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we 
can just give wisdom, and yes you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i 
Got baptised and got has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent 
me here to answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the way,,,,, 
John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he cannot be in the 
Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me to respond ,,,,,, I pray 
before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may turn it light,,,, and open there 
eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that God has asked me to do,,,,, And being 
obedient,,,, is the will of God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people 
here,, just want to hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, 
Mountains Move,,,,,,, 
   
  A servent from God,,,,
  Godbless Kerri,,,,,,

kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
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   Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:58:14 -0800 (PST)
   From: kerri stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what will the dream tell me about the group

ok perry here we go yes it does tell me about the group i know more what you 
think about the group.i have visions about the group and for me to be in it and 
yes i did have dreams now thats the trueth and my visions is telling me some 
one could be in trouble of some sort it might be do to a family member or 
something eles and i know some thing about you.and yes you are right it has 
alot to do about me. yes the trueth my dear. if it didnt have anything to do 
about me i wouldn't be in the group.and i wouldnt wrote what i did comming 
sence tell it all.no not angry,not mad you spoke your trueth and i spoke mine 
as the days comes by you'll see and you will remember what i was spoken of .god 
bless you and you can post anything and i wont get mad if i have a problem i 
hope i can post it and you will answer and help me out. you are good kerri    
nani kalama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  it is the will of God that i speak the 
truth,,,, and and Jesus is the truth,,,,,,,,

Perry Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Uh oh.  Here we go.  Just like in 
dreams, your perceptions don't tell us 
anything about the "reality" you are perceiving, they tell us about you. 
And just like in dreams, we all feel the need to follow _*our own  
*_light/way/God/path/psyche.  Prescribing for others is really not the 
purpose of this group, as I see it, and I'm new here.  Speak your 
truth.  Please remember it's just your truth, is is about you, no one 
else.  I seem to be off track.  Perhaps the Moderator can cut in for the 
next dance?  One point.  Your dream tells you nothing about the group.  
It tells you about you.  That's it. 

Be well

Perry


nani kalama wrote:

> You are very much right,,,,,,,, If we can just give wisdom, and yes 
> you helped me get me back on track with God,,, i Got baptised and got 
> has shown me the light,, and where to go,,,, God has sent me here to 
> answer alot of dreams as well,, as for a vessel for him,,,,,, It is 
> time, Kerri that we step up,,,,,, And let not the enemy,,, Get in the 
> way,,,,, John3:3 "I tell you the truth, unless one is Born again, he 
> cannot be in the Kingdom of God",,,, Every time the holy spirit ask me 
> to respond ,,,,,, I pray before it is sent,,,,,, the darkeness,, may 
> turn it light,,,, and open there eyes,,,,,,It's sowing seed,,, that 
> God has asked me to do,,,,, And being obedient,,,, is the will of 
> God,,,,,,, You are right,,,, there are many people here,, just want to 
> hear the truth,,,,,, And with the Word of God,,,,, Mountains Move,,,,,,,
>   
>   A servent from God,,,,
>   Godbless Kerri,,,,,,
>
> kerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>   ok i am a psychic thats my inheritance and i have been one all my life
> been realy good at it for 20 years.  i have been studying hard at it and
> going to contenue.but i had a dream long ago about this group and my
> spirit led me to this group.it showed me the way here so i sign up it
> was letting me know that the group needs a push.it sees alot of good
> people in it and i see a lot of people in it.but its letting me and my
> spirit know theres something about this group that is not connecting
> right.i feel the bad vibes.something is not getting posted right or to
> much of the same getting posted and when you post the dreams you dont
> start out right on some.im not judging im just letting you know.because
> i have been having more dreams just acouple of days and my mind keeps
> going back to the dream i had years ago this group. i was led to you all
> the energy of the full power led me here. me and my spirit would like to
> keep going. we all need to join in acircle in our human minds to help
> this group because it is agood one i can feel the energy of good vibes.
> and ist letting me know we can make it work. i hope i dont defend any
> body.
>
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