Hi all, I just got back from nine days away to find an e-bushel of fascinating comments on the paper by Punamaki. I won't make any detailed methodological comments at this time, but I have two comments I'd like the group to consider. 1) Whatever problems there are in the study, Punamaki has certaiinly gathered important data in two more-or-less well-defined populations of children and adolescents. Could we expand this data-base? Would ASD, with its international membership, perhaps be able to gather similar data sets in various parts of the world. Ideally sets of dreams from carefully defined populations of children, adols, and adults, in areas judged to vary systematically not only on high trauma vs low trauma, but perhaps on other variables of interest to the world such as economic level,, industrialization,, education etc. What I have in mind is a broad data-base that could be used to answer many questions, not simply the ones about determinants of recall etc I suggest this partly in my role as chair of the not-very-active ASD research committee. However if there is interest in this as a possible ASD project ("2000 dreams for the year 2000" ?) the methodology should be carefully discussed ahead of time, and it should be led by someone much more statistically sophisticated than I. 2) I was most intrigued by Kathy Belicki's comments, especially by the data she mentions on betrayal, which appear to support the hierarchy formulated by Alighieri, D (1319) in which treachery (betrayal) iis the worst evil, far worse than mere murder for instance. I'd be interested in hearing more about this from Kathy or anyone else working on trauma. Best, Ernest