Hi,

On 24/05/2020 21:50, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Le dim. 24 mai 2020 à 20:35, Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> a écrit :
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 7:46 PM Noralf Trønnes <nor...@tronnes.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Den 24.05.2020 18.13, skrev Paul Cercueil:
>>>  > Hi list,
>>>  >
>>>  > I'd like to open a discussion about the current support of MIPI DSI and
>>>  > DBI panels.
>>>  >
>>>  > Both are standards from the MIPI alliance, both are communication
>>>  > protocols between a LCD controller and a LCD panel, they generally both
>>>  > use the same commands (DCS), the main difference is that DSI is serial
>>>  > and DBI is generally parallel.
>>>  >
>>>  > In the kernel right now, DSI is pretty well implemented. All the
>>>  > infrastucture to register a DSI host, DSI device etc. is there. DSI
>>>  > panels are implemented as regular drm_panel instances, and their drivers
>>>  > go through the DSI API to communicate with the panel, which makes them
>>>  > independent of the DSI host driver.
>>>  >
>>>  > DBI, on the other hand, does not have any of this. All (?) DBI panels
>>>  > are implemented as tinydrm drivers, which make them impossible to use
>>>  > with regular DRM drivers. Writing a standard drm_panel driver is
>>>  > impossible, as there is no concept of host and device. All these tinydrm
>>>  > drivers register their own DBI host as they all do DBI over SPI.
>>>  >
>>>  > I think this needs a good cleanup. Given that DSI and DBI are so
>>>  > similar, it would probably make sense to fuse DBI support into the
>>>  > current DSI code, as trying to update DBI would result in a lot of code
>>>  > being duplicated. With the proper host/device registration mechanism
>>>  > from DSI code, it would be possible to turn most of the tinydrm drivers
>>>  > into regular drm_panel drivers.
>>
>> Do we have drivers with dbi support that actually want to reuse the
>> tinydrm drivers? Good clean is all good, but we need a solid reason
>> for changing stuff. Plus we need to make sure we're not just
>> rediscovering all the old reasons for why we ended up where we are
>> right now in the first place.
> 
> I'm trying to interface a ILI9331 based panel that has a DBI/8080 interface. 
> The ILI9331 is very similar to the ILI9341 which already has a tinydrm 
> driver. My SoC has a dedicated DBI/DSI controller, and I have currently no 
> way to make it work with the ingenic-drm driver.
> 
> The idea of a generic drm_panel tinydrm driver was to avoid duplicating code 
> between regular panel and tinydrm drivers, but the focus of my email was more 
> to point that right now there is no way to interface a DBI panel with a 
> regular DRM driver. Unlike DSI, there are currently no drivers with DBI 
> support as there is no API to register a host DBI driver or a DBI panel 
> driver. This is what's really missing here.
> 

Did you have a look at "Enable ili9341 and l3gd20 on stm32f429-disco" 
(http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1590378062-7965-1-git-send-email-dillon.min...@gmail.com)
 from dillon.min...@gmail.com,
it uses the STM32 DPI engine to feed a ili9341. Seems it would match your issue.

Neil

> Cheers,
> -Paul
> 
>>>  > The problem then is that these should still be available as tinydrm
>>>  > drivers. If the DSI/DBI panels can somehow register a .update_fb()
>>>  > callback, it would make it possible to have a panel-agnostic tinydrm
>>>  > driver, which would then probably open a lot of doors, and help a lot to
>>>  > clean the mess.
>>>  >
>>>  > I think I can help with that, I just need some guidance - I am fishing
>>>  > in exotic seas here.
>>>  >
>>>  > Thoughts, comments, are very welcome.
>>>
>>>  I did look at this a few months back:
>>>
>>>  drm/mipi-dbi: Support panel drivers
>>>  
>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2019-August/228966.html
>>>
>>>  The problem with DBI is that it has reused other busses which means we
>>>  don't have DBI drivers, we have SPI drivers instead (6800/8080 is not
>>>  avail. as busses in Linux yet). DSI and DPI on the other hand has
>>>  dedicated hw controller drivers not shared with other subsystems.
>>>
>>>  My initial tinydrm work used drm_panel, but I was not allowed to use it
>>>  (at least not the way I had done it).
>>
>> Hm, do we have a summary of all the discussions/reasons from back
>> then? All I remember is that it's all that simple, you've done a lot
>> of work exploring all the options, I'm fairly sure I suggested
>> drm_panel even back then but somehow it didn't really work. Would be
>> good if we make sure we don't at least repeat history too much :-)
>>
>> Cheers, Daniel
>>
>>>
>>>  Noralf.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>  > Cheers,
>>>  > -Paul
>>>  >
>>>  >
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Daniel Vetter
>> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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