On 7/23/25 11:45, Matt Coster wrote:
> On 25/06/2025 15:41, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 25/06/2025 16:18, Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/25/25 15:55, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On 25/06/2025 14:45, Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/24/25 15:53, Matt Coster wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/06/2025 12:42, Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>>>>>>> Update the img,powervr-rogue.yaml to include the T-HEAD TH1520 SoC's
>>>>>>> specific GPU compatible string.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The thead,th1520-gpu compatible, along with its full chain
>>>>>>> img,img-bxm-4-64, and img,img-rogue, is added to the
>>>>>>> list of recognized GPU types.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The power-domains property requirement for img,img-bxm-4-64 is also
>>>>>>> ensured by adding it to the relevant allOf condition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Acked-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlow...@linaro.org>
>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hans...@linaro.org>
>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszew...@linaro.org>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <m.wilczyn...@samsung.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/img,powervr-rogue.yaml | 9 
>>>>>>> ++++++++-
>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git 
>>>>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/img,powervr-rogue.yaml 
>>>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/img,powervr-rogue.yaml
>>>>>>> index 
>>>>>>> 4450e2e73b3ccf74d29f0e31e2e6687d7cbe5d65..9b241a0c1f5941dc58a1e23970f6d3773d427c22
>>>>>>>  100644
>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/img,powervr-rogue.yaml
>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/img,powervr-rogue.yaml
>>>>>>> @@ -21,6 +21,11 @@ properties:
>>>>>>>            # work with newer dts.
>>>>>>>            - const: img,img-axe
>>>>>>>            - const: img,img-rogue
>>>>>>> +      - items:
>>>>>>> +          - enum:
>>>>>>> +              - thead,th1520-gpu
>>>>>>> +          - const: img,img-bxm-4-64
>>>>>>> +          - const: img,img-rogue
>>>>>>>        - items:
>>>>>>>            - enum:
>>>>>>>                - ti,j721s2-gpu
>>>>>>> @@ -93,7 +98,9 @@ allOf:
>>>>>>>        properties:
>>>>>>>          compatible:
>>>>>>>            contains:
>>>>>>> -            const: img,img-axe-1-16m
>>>>>>> +            enum:
>>>>>>> +              - img,img-axe-1-16m
>>>>>>> +              - img,img-bxm-4-64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't right – BXM-4-64 has two power domains like BXS-4-64. I don't
>>>>>> really know what the right way to handle that in devicetree is given the
>>>>>> TH1520 appears to expose only a top-level domain for the entire GPU, but
>>>>>> there are definitely two separate domains underneath that as far as the
>>>>>> GPU is concerned (see the attached snippet from integration guide).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since power nodes are ref-counted anyway, do we just use the same node
>>>>>> for both domains and let the driver up/down-count it twice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the very helpful insight. That's a great point, it seems the
>>>>> SoC's design presents a tricky case for the bindings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see what you mean about potentially using the same power domain node
>>>>> twice. My only hesitation is that it might be a bit unclear for someone
>>>>> reading the devicetree later. Perhaps another option could be to relax
>>>>> the constraint for this compatible?
>>>>>
>>>>> Krzysztof, we'd be grateful for your thoughts on how to best model this
>>>>> situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's your hardware, you should tell us, not me. I don't know how many
>>>> power domains you have there, but for sure it is not one AND two domains
>>>> the same time. It is either one or two, because power domains are not
>>>> the same as regulator supplies.
>>>
>>> Hi Krzysztof, Matt,
>>>
>>> The img,bxm-4-64 GPU IP itself is designed with two separate power
>>> domains. The TH1520 SoC, which integrates this GPU, wires both of these
>>> to a single OS controllable power gate (controlled via mailbox and E902
>>> co-processor).
>>
>> This helps... and also sounds a lot like regulator supplies, not power
>> domains. :/
> 
> Apologies for taking so long to get back to you with this, I wanted to
> make sure I had the whole picture from our side before commenting again.
> 
> From the GPU side, a "typical" integration of BXM-4-64 would use two
> power domains.
> 
> Typically, these domains exist in silicon, regardless of whether they
> are exposed to the host OS, because the SoC's power controller must have
> control over them. As part of normal operation, the GPU firmware (always
> in domain "a" on Rogue) will request the power-up/down of the other
> domains, including during the initial boot sequence. This all happens
> transparently to the OS. The GPU block itself has no power gating at
> that level, it relies entirely on the SoC integration.
> 
> However, it turns out (unknown to me until very recently) that this
> functionality is optional. The integrator can opt to forego the
> power-saving functionality afforded by firmware-controlled power gating
> and just throw everything into a single domain, which appears to be
> what's happened here.
> 
> My only remaining issue here, then, is the naming. Since this
> integration doesn't use discrete domains, saying it has one domain
> called "a" isn't correct*. We should either:
> 
>  - Drop the name altogether for this integration (and others like it
>    that don't use the low-power functionality, if there are any), or

Hi Matt,

Thanks for the detailed explanation, that clears things up perfectly.

I agree with your assessment. Dropping the power-domain-names property
for this integration seems like the cleanest solution. As you pointed
out, since the OS sees only a single, undifferentiated power domain,
giving it a name like "gpu" would be redundant. This approach correctly
models the hardware without setting a potentially confusing precedent.

To follow through on this, I assume we'll need to adjust
pvr_power_domains_init() to handle nodes that don't have the
power-domain-names property. Does that sound right to you?

>  - Come up with a new domain name to signal this explicitly (perhaps
>    simply "gpu")? Something that's unlikely to clash with the "real"
>    names that are going to start appearing in the Volcanic bindings
>    (where we finally ditched "a", "b", etc.).
> 
> Cheers,
> Matt
> 
> *Yes, I know that's what we said for the AXE-1-16M, but that tiny GPU is
> the exception to the rule; AFAIK it's the only one we've ever produced
> that truly has only one power domain.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> This means a devicetree for the TH1520 can only ever provide one power
>>> domain for the GPU. However, a generic binding for img,bxm-4-64 should
>>
>> If this was a supply, you would have two supplies. Anyway internal
>> wirings of GPU do not matter in such case and more important what the
>> SoC has wired. And it has one power domain.
>>
>>
>>> account for a future SoC that might implement both power domains.
>>>
>>> That's why I proposed to relax the constraints on the img,bmx-4-64 GPU.
>>
>> This should be constrained per each device, so 1 for you and 2 for
>> everyone else.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof
> 
> 

Best regards,
-- 
Michal Wilczynski <m.wilczyn...@samsung.com>

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