On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 8:19 PM Mario Limonciello <supe...@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On 9/10/25 1:11 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi Mario,
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 9:16 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD)
> > <supe...@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> A variety of issues both in function and in power consumption have been
> >> raised as a result of devices not being put into a low power state when
> >> the system is powered off.
> >>
> >> There have been some localized changes[1] to PCI core to help these issues,
> >> but they have had various downsides.
> >>
> >> This series instead uses the driver hibernate flows when the system is
> >> being powered off or halted.  This lines up the behavior with what other
> >> operating systems do as well.  If for some reason that fails or is not
> >> supported, run driver shutdown() callbacks.
> >>
> >> Rafael did mention in earlier versions of the series concerns about
> >> regression risk.  He was looking for thoughts from Greg who isn't against
> >> it but also isn't sure about how to maintain it. [1]
> >>
> >> This has been validated by me and several others in AMD
> >> on a variety of AMD hardware platforms. It's been validated by some
> >> community members on their Intel hardware. To my knowledge it has not
> >> been validated on non-x86.
> >
> > Still, the patches need more work (see my replies to the relevant patches).
>
> Yes, thanks for the review.
> >
> >> On my development laptop I have also contrived failures in the hibernation
> >> callbacks to make sure that the fallback to shutdown callback works.
> >>
> >> In order to assist with potential regressions the series also includes
> >> documentation to help with getting a kernel log at shutdown after
> >> the disk is unmounted.
> >>
> >> Cc: AceLan Kao <acelan....@canonical.com>
> >> Cc: Kai-Heng Feng <kaihe...@nvidia.com>
> >> Cc: Mark Pearson <mpearson-len...@squebb.ca>
> >> Cc: Merthan Karakaş <m3rth...@gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Eric Naim <dn...@cachyos.org>
> >> Link: 
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/2025090852-coma-tycoon-9f37@gregkh/ [1]
> >> ---
> >> v6->v7:
> >>   * Add documentation on how to debug a shutdown hang
> >>   * Adjust commit messages per feedback from Bjorn
> >>
> >> Mario Limonciello (AMD) (12):
> >>    PM: Introduce new PMSG_POWEROFF event
> >>    scsi: Add PM_EVENT_POWEROFF into suspend callbacks
> >>    usb: sl811-hcd: Add PM_EVENT_POWEROFF into suspend callbacks
> >>    USB: Pass PMSG_POWEROFF event to suspend_common()
> >>    PCI/PM: Disable device wakeups when halting or powering off system
> >>    PCI/PM: Split out code from pci_pm_suspend_noirq() into helper
> >>    PCI/PM: Run bridge power up actions as part of restore phase
> >>    PCI/PM: Use pci_power_manageable() in pci_pm_poweroff_noirq()
> >>    PCI: Put PCIe bridges with downstream devices into D3 at hibernate
> >>    drm/amd: Avoid evicting resources at S5
> >>    PM: Use hibernate flows for system power off
> >>    Documentation: power: Add document on debugging shutdown hangs
> >
> > If I were you, I'd split this series into 3 parts.
> >
> > The first part would be the addition of PMSG_POWEROFF just for
> > hibernation, which should not be objectionable (the first 4 patches
> > above).
> >
> > The next one would be changes to allow PCI bridges to go into
> > D3hot/cold during the last stage of hibernation (the "power-off"
> > transition).  This can be justified by itself even before starting to
> > use the same power-off flow for the last stage of hibernation and for
> > system power-down.
> >
> > The last one would be the hibernation/power-down integration.
> >
> > Each of the above can be posted separately and arguably you need to
> > get the first part in before the other two and the second part in
> > before the third one, preferably not in the same cycle.
> >
> > This way, if there are any regressions in the first two parts, there
> > will be at least some time to address them before the last part goes
> > in.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Thanks for this proposal.
>
> I do like the idea of splitting it in 3 parts to give time for
> regression control.
>
> It's getting close to the end of this cycle, would you be opposed to a
> re-spun first 4 patches for 6.18?

No, I wouldn't.

I think that they have been reviewed already.

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