On 02/07/2026 16:31, Boris Brezillon wrote:
On Thu,  2 Jul 2026 15:37:39 +0100
Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]> wrote:

Currently an unordered workqueue is used for the DRM scheduler which means
its concurrency is externally managed, and given there is one scheduler
instance per userspace queue, that means workqueue management logic is
within its rights to spawn many kernel threads to submit their respective
jobs.

Problem there is that all run job callbacks are serialized on the device
global mutex,

I think we should address that instead, and either shorten the scope of
the locked section, or make it so we don't make it a contention point
for concurrent job submission from different contexts (with a rwsem
instead of a lock, for instance).

making the potential thread storm just causing lock
contention.

If we add a separate ordered workqueue for the DRM scheduler integration
we can avoid this problem, since the ordered property directly expresses
the nature of the submission backend implementation.

Yep, except that's not how it was meant to work. The goal was to allow
contexts to submit their jobs concurrently to the FW. The only reason we
take the lock is to:

1. make sure the context is still allowed to take jobs
2. kick the group scheduler if the context is not resident

For #1, I believe we can come up with either a lockless solution, or a
solution where the lock protecting the state belongs to the group
instead of being externally protected by the device-wide scheduler lock.

For #2, the rwsem approach, and narrowing down the locked section to
just this part of the code should do the trick.

Out of curiosity how much CPU side parallelism you think is required to keep these GPUs fed? Both today (with the greater lock contention) and in the future (with the reduced contention) I guess would be interesting data points.

And considering the other user of this workqueue, the free job callback,
which is not globally serialized in this manner so could be thought to
potentially regress with this change, it should not be the case since
commit
a58f317c1ca0 ("drm/sched: Free all finished jobs at once")
made the DRM scheduler handle the cleanup of finished jobs more promptly.

I don't know if this change is a hard dep for what's coming next, but
if it's not, I'd drop it. If it is, and the new kthread_work solution
relies on this serialization, I guess I need to read more to understand
why.

You mean this patch, "drm/panthor: Use separate workqueue for DRM scheduler"?

It is not strictly required. I could for example use the concurrent flavour of the drm_sched_worker I add later in the series. That would align with WQ_UNBOUND which is currently used, but then there is the question of how much parallelism is required and the fact dumb worker pool implementation from this RFC makes no attempt to spawn/retire threads on demand. It just picks four out of thin air kind of. Priority inheritance would still work but if picking a fix number of threads based on some criteria wouldn't be feasible I would need to work on a smarter worker pool implementation.

I could drop it, although the question would be when do you expect locking rework could realistically happen and, if not quick, what is the advantage of keeping the false parallelism.

Regards,

Tvrtko



Signed-off-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>
Cc: Boris Brezillon <[email protected]>
Cc: Liviu Dudau <[email protected]>
Cc: Steven Price <[email protected]>
---
v2:
  * Actually create an unordered wq.
  * Put back WQ_MEM_RECLAIM to sched->wq.
---
  drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c | 26 +++++++++++++++++--------
  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c 
b/drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c
index 2bee1c92fb9e..f4dfd82ad8a8 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c
@@ -147,13 +147,11 @@ struct panthor_scheduler {
        struct panthor_device *ptdev;
/**
-        * @wq: Workqueue used by our internal scheduler logic and
-        * drm_gpu_scheduler.
+        * @wq: Workqueue used by our internal scheduler logic.
         *
         * Used for the scheduler tick, group update or other kind of FW
         * event processing that can't be handled in the threaded interrupt
-        * path. Also passed to the drm_gpu_scheduler instances embedded
-        * in panthor_queue.
+        * path.
         */
        struct workqueue_struct *wq;
@@ -166,6 +164,14 @@ struct panthor_scheduler {
         */
        struct workqueue_struct *heap_alloc_wq;
+ /**
+        * @sched_wq: Workqueue used for the DRM scheduler.
+        *
+        * Workqueue used for drm_gpu_scheduler instances embedded in
+        * panthor_queue.
+        */
+       struct workqueue_struct *sched_wq;
+
        /** @tick_work: Work executed on a scheduling tick. */
        struct delayed_work tick_work;
@@ -3488,7 +3494,7 @@ group_create_queue(struct panthor_group *group,
  {
        struct drm_sched_init_args sched_args = {
                .ops = &panthor_queue_sched_ops,
-               .submit_wq = group->ptdev->scheduler->wq,
+               .submit_wq = group->ptdev->scheduler->sched_wq,
                /*
                 * The credit limit argument tells us the total number of
                 * instructions across all CS slots in the ringbuffer, with
@@ -4078,6 +4084,9 @@ static void panthor_sched_fini(struct drm_device *ddev, 
void *res)
        if (sched->heap_alloc_wq)
                destroy_workqueue(sched->heap_alloc_wq);
+ if (sched->sched_wq)
+               destroy_workqueue(sched->sched_wq);
+
        for (prio = PANTHOR_CSG_PRIORITY_COUNT - 1; prio >= 0; prio--) {
                drm_WARN_ON(ddev, !list_empty(&sched->groups.runnable[prio]));
                drm_WARN_ON(ddev, !list_empty(&sched->groups.idle[prio]));
@@ -4168,12 +4177,13 @@ int panthor_sched_init(struct panthor_device *ptdev)
         * allocate memory, and fail the tiling job if none of these
         * countermeasures worked.
         *
-        * Set WQ_MEM_RECLAIM on sched->wq to unblock the situation when the
-        * system is running out of memory.
+        * Set WQ_MEM_RECLAIM on sched->wq and wq->sched_wq to unblock the
+        * situation when the system is running out of memory.
         */
        sched->heap_alloc_wq = alloc_workqueue("panthor-heap-alloc", 
WQ_UNBOUND, 0);
        sched->wq = alloc_workqueue("panthor-csf-sched", WQ_MEM_RECLAIM | 
WQ_UNBOUND, 0);
-       if (!sched->wq || !sched->heap_alloc_wq) {
+       sched->sched_wq = alloc_ordered_workqueue("panthor-drm-sched", 
WQ_MEM_RECLAIM);
+       if (!sched->wq || !sched->heap_alloc_wq || !sched->sched_wq) {
                panthor_sched_fini(&ptdev->base, sched);
                drm_err(&ptdev->base, "Failed to allocate the workqueues");
                return -ENOMEM;


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