On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:49:03PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote: > On 2014? 08? 07? 18:09, Thierry Reding wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:51:18PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote: > >> On 2014? 08? 07? 15:58, Thierry Reding wrote: > >>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 02:09:19AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote: > >>>> 2014-08-06 16:43 GMT+09:00 Thierry Reding <thierry.reding at gmail.com>: > > [...] > >>>>> As far as I can tell non-continuous mode simply means that the host can > >>>>> turn off the HS clock after a high-speed transmission. I think Andrzej > >>>>> mentioned this already in another subthread, but this is an optional > >>>>> mode that peripherals can support if they have extra circuitry that > >>>>> provides an internal clock. Peripherals that don't have such circuitry > >>>>> may rely on the HS clock to perform in between transmissions and > >>>>> therefore require the HS clock to be always on (continuous mode). That's > >>>>> what the MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS flag is: it advertises that the > >>>>> peripheral supports non-continuous mode and therefore the host can turn > >>>>> the HS clock off after high-speed transmissions. > >>>> > >>>> What I don't make sure is this sentence. With > >>>> MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTIUOUS flag, I guess two possible operations. > >>>> One is, > >>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register > >>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset. > >>>> 2. And then video data is transmitted to panel in HS mode. > >>>> 3. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all > >>>> are high). > >>>> 4. And then D-PHY disables HS clock of host controller. > >>>> 5. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM. > >>>> > >>>> Other is, > >>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register > >>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset. > >>>> 2. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all > >>>> are high). > >>>> 3. And then video data is transmitted to panel in LPM. > >>>> 4. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM. > >>>> > >>>> It seems that you says latter case. > >>> > >>> No. High speed clock and low power mode are orthogonal. Non-continuous > >>> mode simply means that the clock lane enters LP-11 between HS > >>> transmissions (see 5.6 "Clock Management" of the DSI specification). > >>> > >> > >> It seems that clock lane enters LP-11 regardless of HS clock enabled if > >> non-continous mode is used. Right? > > > > No, I think as long as HS clock is enabled the clock lane won't enter > > LP-11. Non-continuous mode means that the controller can disable the HS > > clock between HS transmissions. So in non-continuous mode the clock lane > > can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock. > > It makes me a little bit confusing. You said "if HS clock is enabled, > the the clock lane won't enter LP-11" But you said again "the clock lane > can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock" What is > the meaning?
It means that if the HS clock is enabled, then the clock lane is not in LP-11. When the HS clock stops, then the clock lane enters LP-11. > > In continuous mode, then the clock will never be disabled, hence the > > clock lane will never enter LP-11. > > > >> And also it seems that non-continous mode is different from LPM at all > >> because with non-continuous mode, command data is transmitted to panel > >> in HS mode, but with LPM, command data is transmitted to panel in LP > >> mode. Also right? > > > > No. I think you can send command data to the peripheral in low power > > mode in both continuous and non-continuous clock modes. > > > >> If so, shouldn't the host driver disable HS clock, in case of LP mode, > >> before the host driver transmits command data? > > > > No. If the peripheral doesn't support non-continuous mode, then the HS > > clock must never be turned off. On the other hand, if the peripheral > > supports non-continuous mode, then the DSI host should automatically > > disable the HS clock between high-speed transmissions. That means if a > > packet is transmitted in low power mode the DSI host will not be > > transmitting in high-speed mode and therefore disable the HS clock. > > What is LPM you think? I thought LPM is LP-11 and HS clock disabled. So > for LPM transfer, lanes should be LP-11 state and also HS clock of the > host controller should be disabled. No. I don't think any transmissions can happen when all lanes are in LP-11 state. The MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM is used to specify that a packet should be transmitted in low power mode (see LP Transmission in 2.1 "Definitions" of the MIPI DSI specification). For low power transmissions, only data lane 0 is used (with a clock embedded in the signal), therefore the clock lane (driven by the HS clock) can be in LP-11. Thierry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/attachments/20140807/1202f426/attachment.sig>
