--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 17:46 -0800, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> > --- Philip Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 06:41:38PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote:
> > > > First let me say that if anyone would like to take over updating
> the
> > > > dri-trunk-sid packages on a semi-regular basis, I'd really
> appreciate
> > > > it.  I don't track the Debian X or DRI mailing lists closely
> enough to
> > > > keep up with changes.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to, but I'm not sure I have the time. I'll pull the sources
> > > over sometime over the new year and take a look.
> > > 
> > This might not be posible untill there is a sutable Xserver avalable
> !with
> > out! using DRI's old xc tree, read below.
> 
> The DRI xc tree is dead, it's been folded into the X.Org tree.
> 
I know, this causes a problem for any one building Xfree86 DRI.  We need
to fold the DRI xc tree into Xfree86 or stop using Xfree86 alltogether.

> 
> > > > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 15:00 -0800, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> > > > > At this time Xorg is used for most of the DRI development.  It
> also
> > > seams
> > > > > that the dri, glx, and opengl Xdrivers can be built in the Mesa
> tree
> > > with
> > > > > libGL and the dri_ Xdrivers.  Since Mesa is now able to build
> > > against
> > > > > Xfree86 and Xorg this would seam to fix most of the problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This is news to me.  I thought the current recommended way of
> doing
> > > > things was to build an Xorg xserver, glx, and libgl, then build
> the 3D
> > > > drivers in Mesa.
> > > 
> > > Maybe he's referring to embedded Mesa?
> > > 
> > No, the current unofficial pkgs use the OLD xc tree to build Mesa and
> we
> > also need to build X from that tree.  Since the Mesa tree has changed
> the
> > xc tree is now totaly bittroten, with no reason to correct this.  I
> don't
> > think it will be posible to build the Xserver binary w/o using a(read
> as
> > any) xc tree.  The only solution I see is to port the needed, if any,
> > changes to a working and maintained xc tree.
> > 
> > When this is done the only problem that remains is the 2d Xdrivers, as
> I
> > woulden't expect any one to pickup the MeargedFB code.  
> 
> The DRI xc tree has been folded into the X.Org tree, including MergedFB
> etc.; it's dead.
> 
Read Above.

> 
> > I think with little effort the Mesa tree can be made to build a wider 
> > veriaty of Xdrivers since currenty the 3d Xdrivers are built in this
> tree.
> 
> What 'veriaty of Xdrivers' are you talking about, in particular, what's
> a '3d Xdriver'? If you mean DDX drivers, I don't think those will ever
> build in the Mesa tree.
> 
I'm talking about 2d Xdrivers, where current MergedFB is built.  I think
these can be built with the Mesa/lib/r200_dri.so files that live in
X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so?

> 
> > I think this is the best way to get the Debian DRI pkgs building
> again.  I
> > would hope that some one familure with Mesa builds would atleast
> create
> > the makefiles and symlinked headers for the 2d Xdrivers to build on.  
> 
> FWIW, if I had the time to work on those packages again, I'd do it along
> the lines of:
> 
>       * DRM packages from the directory du jour of the mess that is the
>         DRI CVS drm module.
>       * libGL and 3D drivers from the Mesa tree (building libGL requires
>         adding glxproto.h to the tree though).
>       * X server from the X.Org tree.
Will building the X.Org binarys and puting them on a system expecting
Xfree86 binarys work?  When sarge is released there will be ppl(like me)
not willing to run Xorg, since it's not shiped with sarge.

> 
> 
> > The real problem is how to get the changes out of the old xc tree,
> this I
> > can't solve but I know it must be done, if it must be done.
> 
> Repeat after me: The DRI xc tree has been folded into the X.Org tree;
> it's dead. The...
> 
The DRI xc tree has been folded into the X.Org tree; it's dead.
Ohh, lord what will we do?

> 
> -- 
> Earthling Michel Dänzer      |     Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer
> Libre software enthusiast    |   http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
> 



                
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