On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 12:35:43PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Hi ! > > I'm currently rewriting radeonfb to implement support for dual head, and > ultimately, to make it more friendly to be hooked on DRM for mesa-solo > style setups. > > I have some issues however related to the way memory is mapped and > dealing with apertures. Here is the story, suggestions welcome: > > The radeon card exposes to the system 2 separate apertures. That is, the > PCI region is actually cut by the hardware in two halves, each of them > beeing an "aperture". Each aperture can have different configuration for > the endian swappers (and possibly the surface tiling registers). > > I can configure the apertures to both map to the same bit of video > memory (both covering the framebuffer from 0), or to be "split", that is > aperture 0 covering the framebuffer from 0 to CONFIG_APER_SIZE (size of > an aperture, that is half of the PCI BAR allocation), and aperture 1 > covering the framebuffer from CONFIG_APER_SIZE to CONFIG_APER_SIZE*2. > > However, I can't change anything to CONFIG_APER_SIZE itself, it's > decided by straps, either HW or in the ROM. So we end up with different > setups depending on how the BIOS has configured things. I know that > Apple chips are usually wired so that CONFIG_APER_SIZE is half the video > memory, so if I use the first mode, I can only access half of the video > RAM from PCI, if I use the second, each aperture maps a different half > of video memory with possibly different endian swapping. > > But I think the setups in real life are more diverse and some BIOSes > will have CONFIG_APER_SIZE at least as big as the entire video memory, > thus forcing me to use the "overlapped" setup. In fact, CONFIG_APER_SIZE > may even be smaller than half of the vram and thus limiting the CPU to > part of the VRAM anyway. > > I have toyed with all sort of setups, and I have +/- decided to not > bother, and always do this, please tell me what you think: > > Always setup HOST_PATH_CNTL.HDP_APER_CNTL to 0. That is, both apertures > are always overlapping. On Macs, or other machines that strap > CONFIG_APER_SIZE to half of VRAM, that means only half of vram can be > directly accessed by the CPU. I think this is fine because of these: > > - We only really need to bother about CPU access for the framebuffer > itself (and possibly the cursor). That is normal non-accelerated fbdev > operations an mmap'ing of the framebuffer in user space. This is not > really a problem if that is limited to some part of vram. It puts a > small constraint on the allocation of video memory: the framebuffer has > to be near the beginning.
It will limit DirectFB to access only CONFIG_APER_SIZE. DirectFB needs CPU access to offscreen memory for software fallbacks and explicit user access. Any other compositing window system would need to do the same. If the video memory manager ever gets done then it shouldn't be a major problem because the kernel could blit the data to/from the inaccesible part without the application even realizing it. Although direct access might be useful in that case also since it could reduce pressure on the GART address space. > But my opinion is that a mode switch will > pretty much always invalidate everything that is cached in video memory, I don't see any reason for such a sledgehammer approach. If the new mode doesn't overlap with any offscreen data then there is no need to invalidate anything. -- Ville Syrjälä [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sci.fi/~syrjala/ ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click -- _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
