On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Andrew Morton <a...@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:05:59 +0100 > Ingo Molnar <mi...@elte.hu> wrote: >> Regressions are not limited to 'same config' kernels, last i checked. If that >> has changed (or if i'm misunderstanding it) then it would be nice to hear a >> clarification about that from Linus. >> >> The way i understand it is that there are narrow exceptions from the >> regression rules, such as completely new drivers for which there can be no >> prior expectation of stability by users. (but for even them we are generally >> on the safer side to list bugs in them as regressions as well - especially if >> we expect many users to enable it.) >> >> AFAIK there's no exception for new sub-features of existing facilities or >> drivers, even if it's default-disabled. >> >> This issue materially affects quite a few bugs i'm handling as a maintainer. >> Many of them are under default-off config options - most new aspects to >> existing code are introduced in such a way. It would remove quite a bit of >> urgent-workload from my workflow if i could strike them from Rafael's list >> and could deprioritize them as "plain bugs", to be fixed as time permits. >> >> IMHO it would be rather counter-productive to kernel quality if we did that >> kind of regression-lawyering though. > > Yes, it's mainly semantics. > > From the user's point of view > > kernel N: boots, works, plays nethack > kernel N+1: goes splat > > That kernel regressed for that user. He'll shrug and will go back to > kernel N and we lost an N+1 tester. And the distros who ship N+1 get a > lot of hack work to do. > > If the feature is this buggy, it was wrong to make it accessible in Kconfig.
That's why some features are marked as _experimental_ and disabled by default. If the feature is not marked as such, then yeah, I would consider it a regression. -- Felipe Contreras ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com -- _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel