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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Ryan Rawson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I just commented on this first JIRA.  Here is my text:
>
> This issue has been hashed over a lot in the Hadoop projects. There
> was work done to compare thrift vs avro vs protobuf. The conclusion
> was protobuf was the decision to use.
>
> Prior to this move, there had been a lot of noise about pluggable RPC
> transports, and whatnot. It held up adoption of a backwards compatible
> serialization framework for a long time. The problem ended up being
> the analysis-paralysis, rather than the specific implementation
> problem. In other words, the problem was a LACK of implementation than
> actual REAL problems.
>
> Based on this experience, I'd strongly suggest adopting protobuf and
> moving on. Forget about pluggable RPC implementations, the complexity
> doesnt deliver benefits. The benefits of protobuf is that its the RPC
> format for Hadoop and HBase, which allows Drill to draw on the broad
> experience of those communities who need to implement high performance
> backwards compatible RPC serialization.
>
> ====
>
> Expanding a bit, I've looked in to this issue a lot, and there is very
> few significant concrete reasons to choose protobuf vs thrift.  Tiny
> percent faster of this, and that, etc.  I'd strongly suggest protobuf
> for the expanded community.  There is no particular Apache imperative
> that Apache projects re-use libraries.  Use what makes sense for your
> project.
>
> As regards to Avro, it's a fine serialization format for long term
> data retention, but the complexities that exist to enable that make it
> non-ideal for an RPC.  I know of no one who uses AvroRPC in any form.
>
> -ryan
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Tomer Shiran <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > We plan to propose the architecture and interfaces in the next couple
> > weeks, which will make it easy to divide the project into clear building
> > blocks. At that point it will be easier to start contributing different
> > data sources, data formats, operators, query languages, etc.
> >
> > The contributions are done in the usual Apache way. It's best to open a
> > JIRA and then post a patch so that others can review and then a committer
> > can check it in.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Chandan Madhesia <
> [email protected]
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> What is the process to become a contributor to drill ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> chandan
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Suffice it to say that if *you* think it is important enough to
> implement
> >> > and maintain, then the group shouldn't say naye.  The consensus stuff
> >> > should only block things that break something else.  Additive features
> >> that
> >> > are highly maintainable (or which come with commitments) shouldn't
> >> > generally be blocked.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Michael Hausenblas <
> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Good. Feel free to put me down for that, if the group as a whole
> thinks
> >> > > that (supporting Thrift) makes sense.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tomer Shiran
> > Director of Product Management | MapR Technologies | 650-804-8657
>



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Tomer Shiran
Director of Product Management | MapR Technologies | 650-804-8657

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