Garrett D'Amore wrote:
Brian Xu - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China wrote:
Garrett D'Amore wrote:
Brian Xu - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China wrote:
Hi there,

I have a question here:
Why all of the NIC drivers have to bcopy the MBLKs for transmit? (some of them bcopy always, and some others bcopy under a threshold of the packet length).

I think one of the reason is the overhead of the setup of dma on the fly is greater than the overhead of bcopy for short packets. I want to know if this is the case and if there are any other reasons.

Yes. For any packet reasonably sized bcopy (ETHERMTU or smaller) is faster on *all* recent hardware. (This is confirmed on even an older 300MHz Via C3.) (Hmm... I've heard that for some Niagra systems this might not be true, however. But I've not tested it myself.)
Even with bcopy, there is still need a pre-binded dma resource. So the threshold of the bcopy size is based on whether the overhead for dma bind on the fly is greater than the threshold of the bcopy to a pre-binded dma address. For the hardware itself, it only know DMA is needed.
The pre-bound DMA setup you pay at attach() time, and doesn't play a role. So you have to compare the cost of bcopy() vs. the cost of ddi_dma_addr_setup().
It is really what I meant.
There is a lot of additional complexity for tx as well, because you have to deal with the fact that packets may cross page boundaries and require multiple DMA cookies. This adds a lot of complexity, and not all drivers can deal well with multiple descriptors per packet.
Just as what we do for ddi_dma_buf_bind_handle, the shadow page list records all the mapped physical pages. so you don't have to worry about the cross of page boundary.


I still don´t know if there are other reasons other than the overhead of dma setup.

Complexity. There are various concerns, as a race with _fini() and esballoc (for the rx path), involved.

Also you have to worry about alignment. Not all hardware can transmit arbitrarily aligned packets. With all the work you wind up doing to make this work correctly, you get very little performance benefit. So its rarely worth the pain and suffering. For regular MTU frames, it just isn't worth it, ever. On reasonably modern hardware, anyway.
For the alignment, does how large packet transmit (dma bind on the fly) does is OK, I think.

Thanks,
Brian

For rx, you can eliminate a lot of the DMA costs by recycling buffers. But the complexity to do this "well" without introducing potential panics is high. Almost every driver that has tried has gotten this wrong at some point. Some of them are still wrong.

   -- Garrett

Thanks,
Brian

I think the situation is different with jumbo frames, though.


If what I guess is the major cause, I have a proposal and I want to hear your advice whether it makes sense.

The most time-consuming action for the dma setup is the dma bind, more specific, calling into the VM layer to get the PFN for the vaddr(hat_getpfnum()), since it need to search the huge page table. While for the MBLKs, essentially which are slab objects, the PFN has already been determined in the slab layer, and for most of their usage, we only touch the magazine layer, where the PFN is a pre determined one. That is, the PFN should be considered as a constructed state, but we don't leverage it for dma bind.

In storage, we have a field 'b_shadow' in buf(9S) to store the pages which are recently used, through which the PFNs can be easily got. so in the case that b_shadow works, ddi_dma_buf_bind_handle() is much faster than the ddi_dma_mem_bind_handle(). Another example, moving the dma bind of the HBA driver(mpt) from Tx path to the kmem cache constrcutor, mpt driver got 26% throughput increment. See CR6707308.

If the mblk could store the PFN info and we had a ddi_dma_mblk_bind_handle() like interface, then I think it will benefit the performance of the NIC drivers. I consulted the PAE, and got a answer that the bcopy is typically about 10-15% of a NIC TX workload.

There are things that can do to make DMA faster, better, and simpler. In an ideal world, the GLDv3 could do most of this work, and the mblk could just carry the ddi_dma_cookie with it.

   -- Garrett

Thanks,
Brian

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