Brian Aker wrote: > Hi! > > On Jan 2, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Roland Bouman wrote: > >> But that means that many users will actually need to obtain >> particular plugins and properly install and configure them. And >> that's assuming > > You should be able to download source for Drizzle, do a ./configure > && make && make install and have a useful database. Trimming down > plugins is for an advanced user, not a basic user.
Yes. I agree with this. > Ideally a user would just be using a version of Drizzle from their > distribution (or a downloaded binary for OSX and Windows). ++ Additionally - I'm just about done with having different plugin in different distro packages (so apt-get install drizzle-plugin-pbxt, for instance) so that we can behave much more like apache in this regard (apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl works great) > >> they know which ones they need for their particular scenario. Now, >> assuming the reference documentation for all these plugins exists, >> that still means one needs to read all of it before you know what >> to get and do. >> >> One of the major challenges will be to make it easy for people with >> a DBA role to get up and running so they can try how it fits their >> use case. Preferably, without getting trapped in all kinds of >> build/installation issues, and without having intimate familiarity >> with the "plugin zoo" (not meaning this in a derogatory sense, just >> trying to convey the diversity) >> >> Ideally, 5 minutes of reading should be enough to learn what to >> download for the fairly common use case. Another 5 minutes to read >> up on any details on basic installation/configuration. >> >> In my experience, it's hard to write something that conveys all you >> need to know in just 5 minutes, but maybe that's just me. >> >> kind regards, >> >> Roland >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Brian Aker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> +++ >>>> >>>> An intoduction to using drizzle would make for a great paper. >>>> >>>> Cheers, --Brian >>>> >>>> On Jan 1, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Baron Schwartz <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just to play devil's advocate. Don't hate me :-) Drizzle >>>>> has a great dev community, but I'm just writing to encourage >>>>> everyone to reach out more to users. For example, at the >>>>> upcoming MySQL conference, I see a tutorial "Getting involved >>>>> in Drizzle Development", and another "Drizzle Storage Engine >>>>> Development. Practical Example with BlitzDB". Both sound >>>>> wicked cool and interesting to about 10 possible attendees, 9 >>>>> of whom are already active committers to Drizzle. Maybe I am >>>>> underestimating the interest in developing Drizzle or >>>>> developing plugins for it, I don't know. But I feel that at >>>>> some point, there has to be an on-ramp for users, not just >>>>> developers. >>>>> >>>>> - Baron >>>>> >>>>> -- Baron Schwartz Percona Inc: Services and Support for MySQL >>>>> http://www.percona.com/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : >>>>> [email protected] Unsubscribe : >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : >>>>> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : >>>> [email protected] Unsubscribe : >>>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : >>>> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : >>> [email protected] Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : >>> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> -- Roland Bouman http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/ >> >> Author of "Pentaho Solutions: Business Intelligence and Data >> Warehousing with Pentaho and MySQL", >> http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470484322.html > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : > [email protected] Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
