Hello,

Thanks a lot for your help! This is a great input, Pauline, Victor, David
and Emilio.

I will discuss these possibilities with my team and hopefully find a
solution soon.

All the best,

El vie, 28 may 2021 a las 18:28, emilio lorenzo (<[email protected]>)
escribió:

> Hi Antonio  (and Pauline)
>
> DOIs (issued by Datacite or CrossRef) are always an alternative for
> Persistant URLs (PURLs) inteads of CNRI´s Handles,   except for the price.
> The figures are (correct me if I´m wrong , )  CrossRef DOIs-> 250$ annual
> membreship + 1$ per identifier   and Datacite--> 2.000€ annual fee+
> variable fee depending use of services, see
> https://blog.datacite.org/the-new-datacite-membership-and-fees-model/)
> For a repository having to issue thousands of identifiers  (culture
> heritage objects tends to multiply ) the figures are HIGH¡¡¡
>
> Dspace can  not run (at this moment)  without assigning handles (not only
> the objects but the collections and communities have handles) but that do
> not imply to convert the handles  into PURLs, registering them into a
> service as CNRI (50$ annual fee,  no individual fee per item, quite cheap
> service).  Interestingly enough,  some  institutions  have avoided issuing
> handles many years (read the details in
> https://www.arvo.es/dspace/uso-de-identificadores-persistentes/) .
>
> Antonio, your question remains...
>
> how would create good permanent links with
> a handle? At the moment, the links contain a default prefix
> (handle/123456789) plus a local identifier, e.g. handle/123456789/16.
>
> a not very "academic" solution....
>
>
>    - Choose a stable Base URL for your repository  -->   a Public
>    institution domain is always a good start, since the do not  change domain
>    names very often.      repositorio.ohc.cu   could serve, the name of
>    your institution has not changed since 1938¡¡¡   Keep in mind that IF that
>    web address change, the URLs pointing to your objects will change, and that
>    wil  become a big  problem. As long as that base URL is maintained, you
>    have  build  a pseudo "persistence"  of your links
>    - You can also change 123456789   to any value, even a text would
>    serve, it is not so important, but once choosed, do not change.
>
> And voilá ,  you will have  "pseudo"-PURL system,  and your objects will
> be referenced with   (example)  repositorio.ohc.cu/handle/habana/16
>
> Best luck with your repository.
>
> Dont doubt contact us for any additional questions
> Emilio
> On 28/05/2021 17:24, WARD Pauline wrote:
>
> Buenos Dias Antonio
>
>
>
> Some DSpace repositories, such as my own, Edinburgh DataShare, create
> DataCite DOIs, Digital Object Identifiers, alongside our handles. DataCite
> is headquartered at the British Library, so they might not be constrained
> by that embargo. DataCite is a great organisation and we find our
> researchers are very keen to get the DOI for their data.
>
>
>
> The only potential problem for you I think is whether DSpace can run
> without creating the handles – I have a feeling when we added the minting
> of DOIs, the sysadmin said DSpace required us to continue generating
> handles. But that was a few years ago, so you would need to investigate
> whether that is still the case.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
> Pauline Ward
>
> Research Data Support Assistant, University of Edinburgh
>
> https://www.ed.ac.uk/is/research-data-service
>
> I’m working from home full time.
>
>
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> Antonio RC <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>: May 27 12:43AM -0700
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> Hello everybody,
>
> I am currently collaborating on the implementation of a DSpace repository
> installed in server hosted by a cultural heritage institution (Oficina del
> Historiador de la Ciudad de la Habana) in Cuba as part of Humboldt Digital
> Project.
>
> We have encountered a big problem unfortunately: due to the Embargo
> situtation in Cuba, the Handle provider has declined our request to
> register the repository and obtain a prefix for the Cuban institution --
> even though this is a German-Cuban cooperation project and the services
> would be paid by the German institutions.
>
> I would like to ask you two questions:
>
> - I would like to ask you if you know any alternatives to Handle that
> could be used instead. Is there any other provider of persistent
> identifier
> that is not based in the States?
> - If there is no alternative, how would create good permanent links with
> a handle? At the moment, the links contain a default prefix
> (handle/123456789) plus a local identifier, e.g. handle/123456789/16.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Best,
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