On 27 Jan 2010, at 17:41, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> Interesting.  Much of the stuff they are pushing into IR+ is stuff I
> would like to see pushed *out* of DSpace.

I completely agree.

> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:05:28AM +0100, Bram Luyten wrote [in part]:
>> Elaborated user account settings
>> 
>>   - Multiple Email Addresses
>>   - Publication Name Management (especially useful when you get married
>>   during the course of your academic career)
>>   - An overview of accepted licences
> 
> The last is properly part of DSpace, I think.  The rest shouldn't be
> part of any customer-facing product; those are functions of the
> enterprise directory service (when there is one) and DSpace should
> just ask the directory for what it needs when it is queried, returning
> as many results as it got, and letting the directory make decisions
> about who gets to see telephone numbers (for example).

Those properties do make sense for a service that goes out and finds all the 
publications of a particular researcher. A service that has two useful outputs 
for a researcher - a publications list, and deposit of publications into a 
repository.

Such a service should exist to researchers (and I'll note that some already 
do), and may be offered as part of the overall library ecosystem. But whilst it 
has an impact on the content of a repository, at no point does that 
functionality need to be built within the repository software - and nor should 
it.

>> User Workspace
>> 
>>   - File and Folder Management
>>   - Share files with other users
>>   - Version management: upload new versions for files
>>   - File locks & Permission mechanism
>> 
>> The implementation of User Workspaces gave me a very Google-Docs like
>> feeling, but without the in-browser editors. Uploading & downloading files,
>> and managing them locally on a PC could possibly be a show stopper here. But
>> the version management, permission & locks and sharing system seem well
>> implemented.
> 
> Can't we find a well-made workflow system already existing, and fit it
> in?  (Or fit DSpace into it.  Again, this is something that applies
> across various repositories, not all of which will be DSpace.)

Workspaces and workflows are different things! But I agree with the second part 
that the repository should integrate with a workspace system, and not the other 
way round.

I like the comment "it's Google-Docs like, but without the in-browser editors". 
Yes, Google Docs is a fantastic, truly collaborative environment. Do we really 
think we can pretend to be Google Docs? Of course not, so why be a crap 
imitation, if we could just integrate with the real thing?

Why should we be a place that people share transient document states, as well 
as somewhere that permanently preserves documents as they exist at the time? 
These aren't just logically conflicting ideas, dealing with documents in a 
state of flux has an impact on what we can reasonably achieve in preservation 
and dissemination.

More importantly, why bother? Alfresco already does it open source, Sharepoint 
closed source. They are far more focussed in that space, integrating with 
office suites and providing collaboration. So let them get on with it - and 
automatically push the documents you want to preserve to the repository when 
you are ready. Let's benefit from so many people invested in solving those 
problems, and focus on our own. We'll achieve so much more by not trying to 
compete with them.

G
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