Hi all

About Prism - I think this would be definitely worth exploring more, but I only 
had a brief look at it. 

Graham and Robin(Edinburgh) mentioned it on the list last year and I thought 
YESSSS.... this would work.

http://www.prismstandard.org/faq/ 

"Hey there all you other Rep Managers" have a look and see if an out of the box 
DSpace with this extra/additional/instead of schema would work for you.

Cheers Leonie

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   1. Re: DSpace 1.7 discussion: Introductions (Andrea Schweer)
   2. Re: DSpace 1.7 discussion: Upgrade Challenges (Graham Triggs)
   3. Re: 1.7 discussion Introductions (Graham Triggs)
   4. Re: DSpace 1.7 discussion: more than one DSpace   instance
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   5. Re: DSpace 1.7 discussion: more than one DSpace instance
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:58:03 +1300
From: Andrea Schweer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] DSpace 1.7 discussion: Introductions
To: [email protected]
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Hi all,

I'm Andrea Schweer, my official title is Institutional Research
Repository Technical Specialist. I'm a software developer based at the
University of Waikato in New Zealand; I'm responsible for development
and maintenance of four different institutional repositories for the
Library Consortium of New Zealand.

I haven't been in this role for more than a few months, which means I
inherited all four repositories. I think the "older" ones went live
around 2008 and the "newest" one early in 2010.

Currently, three are on 1.6.1 and the fourth is on 1.6.2; all are on
RHEL 5.5. There are no immediate plans to go to 1.7, though an upgrade
to 1.7.1 (if it's been released by then) is tentatively scheduled for
after Easter.

Two of the repositories use XMLUI, the other two use JSPUI. We have a
whole bunch of customisations of code and user interface, mostly around
embargoes but also for usage statistics.

cheers,
Andrea

-- 
Andrea Schweer
IRR Technical Specialist, ITS Information Systems
The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:01:56 +0000
From: Graham Triggs <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] DSpace 1.7 discussion: Upgrade
        Challenges
To: Brian Freels-Stendel <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]"
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On 20 January 2011 16:53, Brian Freels-Stendel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our philosophy is not to be bleeding edge, so we generally don't jump
> on a .0 release, but we do want to remain semi-current, so a .1 is ok.
>

Hi,

This is a common perception (not just with DSpace, but most software), but
it's worth addressing in the context of how DSpace releases are managed.

The primary focus and planning of DSpace releases is on the .0 release. When
cutting a major version, we don't plan to do a .1, .2, etc. release. These
only happen if there are significant problems found in the .0 release (and
they may not even be problems that originated in the .0 release - quite
often they have actually existed for a number of releases, but have only
just been uncovered), which justify a .1 release.

For 1.7.0, we changed our release planning from "when it's ready", to
setting a date for the release well in advance and working towards getting
features into it. Going forward, we would hope to regulate that to become a
predictable cycle for the .0 releases. We're also including more testing in
the development process, and are looking to build community involvement in
the testing phases prior to the actual release (such as having longer
periods for testing, more test releases).

Between the quality analysis and testing in the development process, and the
tighter scheduling of major releases, it's quite possible that we will have
major releases in the future that have no .1 release, due to no problems
being found within a reasonable amount of time of the major release.

It's understandable to want to wait for a period of time before upgrading to
see if any problems are found, but anyone waiting solely for a bug fix
release may end up waiting for something that never happens (for all the
right reasons though!).

We also have a devil of a time with prerequisite software (we almost
> were not able to upgrade to 1.6 due to Ant, and we will have to wait for
> 1.7 because RH isn't offering a late enough version of maven.)  We
> customize fairly heavily, and that is always a challenge, but almost
> always possible because of great community support.
>

Prerequisites are tricky, and we try as best as possible to support versions
of the major components (ie. Postgres, Java) that are supported and/or
provided on the recent major platforms (Mac, Windows, Red Hat, Suse, Debian,
Ubuntu). With distributions like Red Hat and Debian, they have a 'steady'
and cautious approach to new releases, so there will be times when that may
be impossible.

In the case of prerequisites like Maven and Ant, current versions can be
installed on any platform simply by unarchiving a file downloaded from those
projects homepage. And [particularly where it is just a development /
deployment tool,] it's quite easy to install and use a version that is
required by DSpace, and without overwriting the versions provided by the
platform. We would still rather be able to support the versions provided by
Red Hat, etc., but where we don't it's because we have good reason to
require features that are in the newer releases.

Regards,
G
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:13:57 +0000
From: Graham Triggs <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] 1.7 discussion Introductions
To: Leonie Hayes <[email protected]>
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On 20 January 2011 20:26, Leonie Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

> We don't do much customisation and try to upgrade as quickly as possible, I
> spent a lot of time trying to make sure that our metadata was comprehensive
> but have always been disappointed with the fact there is no metadata for
> separate elements of a citation like volume, issue and s/e pages, also
> export to endnote/BibTeX etc and that is something I hope to contribute to
> the community for 1.8.
>

Hi Leonie,

I share your pain with this problem - we also have an export mechanism for
EndNote, based on parsing the citation field. It works, but without the
consistency in the metadata it's impossible to contribute back to the
community [and expect it to be reliable].

More recently, we have started implementing a PRISM metadata schema (
http://www.prismstandard.org/) for the discrete metadata fields. PRISM
specifies discrete fields for this metadata, plus much more information that
publishers have/are interested in, which would naturally support reliable
export mechanisms.

As this standard has already been adopted by most of the major publishers,
they are already in a position to provide that metadata for automated
deposit / ingest (where they are prepared to support such services), if the
repository community was to agree to also support the standard.

I look forward to having further discussions about this.

Regards,
G
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:41:40 -0500
From: "Platt, Alice" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] DSpace 1.7 discussion: more than one
        DSpace  instance
To: "[email protected]"
        <[email protected]>
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        <[email protected]>
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I realize you are new, so you might not know the nuances to the answer, but I 
am interested in why the library has four separate repositories. For the group 
-- does anyone else have more than one DSpace instance at their institution, 
and why?

Alice Platt
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Shapiro Library
Southern New Hampshire University
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From: Andrea Schweer [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] DSpace 1.7 discussion: Introductions

Hi all,

I'm Andrea Schweer, my official title is Institutional Research
Repository Technical Specialist. I'm a software developer based at the
University of Waikato in New Zealand; I'm responsible for development
and maintenance of four different institutional repositories for the
Library Consortium of New Zealand.

I haven't been in this role for more than a few months, which means I
inherited all four repositories. I think the "older" ones went live
around 2008 and the "newest" one early in 2010.

Currently, three are on 1.6.1 and the fourth is on 1.6.2; all are on
RHEL 5.5. There are no immediate plans to go to 1.7, though an upgrade
to 1.7.1 (if it's been released by then) is tentatively scheduled for
after Easter.

Two of the repositories use XMLUI, the other two use JSPUI. We have a
whole bunch of customisations of code and user interface, mostly around
embargoes but also for usage statistics.

cheers,
Andrea

--
Andrea Schweer
IRR Technical Specialist, ITS Information Systems
The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:01:48 +1300
From: Andrea Schweer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] DSpace 1.7 discussion: more than one
        DSpace instance
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Hi Alice,

On 21/01/11 12:41, Platt, Alice wrote:
> 
> Andrea Schweer wrote:
>> I'm responsible for development and maintenance of four different 
>> institutional repositories for the Library Consortium of New 
>> Zealand.
> 
> I realize you are new, so you might not know the nuances to the 
> answer, but I am interested in why the library has four separate 
> repositories.

I see I didn't explain that very well -- each of the four repositories
that I'm looking after belongs to a different NZ university or
polytechnic. The Library Consortium of New Zealand [1] is a consortium
of several university libraries in New Zealand; the institutions whose
repositories I'm looking after decided to band together and share some
work in setting up and running their repositories.

> For the group -- does anyone else have more than one DSpace instance
> at their institution, and why?

One of the four sites does have several repositories, for historic
reasons. Two organisational sub-units had already set up local
repositories (both on EPrints) when the university-wide DSpace one went
live. Currently all three are running side by side but plans are
underway to merge at least one of the EPrints repositories into the
university-wide one.

cheers,
Andrea

[1] http://www.lconz.ac.nz/

-- 
Andrea Schweer
IRR Technical Specialist, ITS Information Systems
The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand



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