You welcome. Before ending this. I start to think It's a permission issue 
you facing and I think related to the user you logged in with so try 
enabling root and doing the installation with it. See the steps below.

# choose a password for the root user
sudo passwd root

# login with root and start the installation that was failing.
su - root

Good luck.




On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 2:18:17 AM UTC+3 Chris Clawson wrote:

> Thanks for the help! I already understand that the system startup script 
> is in /etc/init.d . The problem now seems to be that the full service of 
> Solr (extracted in /build) contains the tar (package file) and the 
> install_solr_service.sh script, which you have said to modify for user 
> 'tomcat' (instead of 'solr'). Changing this username causes the 
> installation to fail as a service, although you can start solr manually out 
> of the /opt/solr/bin directory (which I understand you should not do.
> I need to explore why the installation script works with user 'solr', and 
> then fails if I try a clean install as 'tomcat'. Maybe I can play with 
> group permissions and use the 'solr' user, while permitting the 'tomcat' 
> user to have access permissions to the solr group (as well as my DSpace 
> directory). Unless anyone replies more here, I will end this thread and 
> start a new one later. I might start the conversation fresh with a new 
> summary and the benefit of what I have learned. You have help much in 
> learning where to look. Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 5:43:15 PM UTC-5 Mohammad S. AlMutairi 
> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Re-reading your message made me understand the confusion you have. Please 
>> don't start solr from /opt/solr-8.11.1/bin ... The solr startup script in 
>> ubuntu is located here /etc/init.d/solr ... If you edit this file you will 
>> see in line 56 solr will be run as tomcat and more thing please use 
>> systemctl start solr to run it or systemctl enable solr to enable it at 
>> boot time and so on...
>>
>> (( I understand 'install_solr_service.sh' needs to have the username 
>> changed from 'solr' to my actual DSpace user 'tomcat', but you are saying 
>> this script appears in '/etc/default/install_solr_service.sh' . Before 
>> installation, the only place it appears is in /build . This was where I 
>> edited 'install_solr_service.sh'. Once this script is run, my installation 
>> directory is '/opt/solr-8.11.1' and the script (original and unedited from 
>> the tar archive) is written to '/opt/solr-8.11.1/bin' . Of course, the 
>> default 'SOLR_USER=solr' rather than 'tomcat' is there. Is this script in 
>> it's new location important to edit 'SOLR_USER=' to 'tomcat as well? What 
>> about this path to ' /etc/default/install_solr_service.sh'? The only thing 
>> (solr) at '/etc/default/' is 'solr.in.sh', which doesn't seem to be 
>> involved with defining users.))
>>
>>
>> Mohammed
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 9:03:00 PM UTC+3 Chris Clawson wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad -
>>> I am attempting a fresh Solr install as per you detailed instructions. 
>>> The first attempt now has a functional solr, but won't start as a service 
>>> at run time. I can force start solr as user 'tomcat' by the command 'sudo 
>>> -u tomcat ./solr start' from the  /opt/solr-8.11.1/bin directory. I was 
>>> then able to connect to Solr at http://meloware.com:8983/solr/#/ , but 
>>> I get an error "Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG" when I attempt to 
>>> connect to https://meloware.com:8983/solr/#/  . Maybe I am not supposed 
>>> to do that, even on good days.
>>>
>>> Without more help, I will probably try and clean/re-install solr-8.1.11 
>>> again, but I should get some clarification about the instructions posted 
>>> earlier in this thread.
>>> Item (e) says to:
>>>  vi ./install_solr_service.sh # You need to change SOLR_USER=solr to 
>>> SOLR_USER=tomcat in /etc/default/install_solr_service.sh file. tomcat is 
>>> the user which has write permission over dspace folder if not replace 
>>> tomcat with the user you picked for dspace.
>>>
>>> I understand 'install_solr_service.sh' needs to have the username 
>>> changed from 'solr' to my actual DSpace user 'tomcat', but you are saying 
>>> this script appears in '/etc/default/install_solr_service.sh' . Before 
>>> installation, the only place it appears is in /build . This was where I 
>>> edited 'install_solr_service.sh'. Once this script is run, my installation 
>>> directory is '/opt/solr-8.11.1' and the script (original and unedited from 
>>> the tar archive) is written to '/opt/solr-8.11.1/bin' . Of course, the 
>>> default 'SOLR_USER=solr' rather than 'tomcat' is there. Is this script in 
>>> it's new location important to edit 'SOLR_USER=' to 'tomcat as well? What 
>>> about this path to ' /etc/default/install_solr_service.sh'? The only thing 
>>> (solr) at '/etc/default/' is 'solr.in.sh', which doesn't seem to be 
>>> involved with defining users.
>>> ***
>>> I may have goofed somewhere and will try a clean re-install again. I 
>>> still would appreciate the answers to three questions:
>>> 1) Is the https error ' SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG' something to worry 
>>> about now or later? 
>>> 2) Should I presume the correct location to edit the 
>>> 'install_solr_service.sh' script (for changing the SOLR_USER to 'tomcat')  
>>> is the one in '/build' , and not in ' /etc/default/' ?
>>> 3) Once installed, should I also edit  SOLR_USER  in  
>>> '/opt/solr-8.11.1/bin/install_solr_service.sh' and also change that 
>>> variable to 'tomcat', as I first did with the script in /build?
>>> Thanks - I'll 'get it' eventually
>>> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 9:17:06 PM UTC-5 Mohammad S. AlMutairi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You most welcome. Let us here in group how it goes or if you need help 
>>>> with what's left to get it up and running. Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 1:51:00 AM UTC+3 Chris Clawson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just took a better look at Mohammad's excellent, detailed 
>>>>> instructions. Rather than proceeding with the front-end installation, I 
>>>>> think I will make a re-install of Solr 8.11.1 as per his instructions. 
>>>>> Thanks for the great detail!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:42:26 PM UTC-5 Chris Clawson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gentlemen, Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sorry about not including my system conditions (I normally do 
>>>>>> include them). I am not an I.T. professional and cannot follow 
>>>>>> directions 
>>>>>> by nature. I am running a KVM container with Ubuntu 18.?, LAMP and 
>>>>>> Tomcat 
>>>>>> 9. I don't remember how I installed the packages, but although I could 
>>>>>> manually start them,  I couldn't get them to to load/run at boot time. 
>>>>>> It 
>>>>>> took a day or more for me to discover there was a difference between 
>>>>>> systemd and init.d. (An important one.) I now have both Tomcat and Solr 
>>>>>> running as systemd services and I have created a user/group 'solr' 
>>>>>> *without* any password assigned to the Solr user. PLEASE let me know 
>>>>>> if there is something to fix at this point. The DSpace seems to start 
>>>>>> fine 
>>>>>> at boot time, now. I also have just finished installing SSL for both 
>>>>>> Apache 
>>>>>> and Tomcat. My back-end Hal browser pages happily displays now when 
>>>>>> accessing https://meloware.com:8443/#/api . I will copy and save the 
>>>>>> valuable information you have took the time to mention here and save it 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> future reference. This site is practice before attempting to upgrade my 
>>>>>> production server (with DSpace 6.3) at 
>>>>>> https://montaguearchive.org:8443/ .
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 12:56:31 PM UTC-5 Mohammad S. 
>>>>>> AlMutairi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You dropped a vital piece of information about the Linux flavor you 
>>>>>>> are using so I'm assuming a Debian derivative. It's better to start a 
>>>>>>> fresh 
>>>>>>> Solr installation by removing the old Solr installation and following 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> steps you see below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) mkdir /build
>>>>>>> b) cd /build
>>>>>>> c) wget 
>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/lucene/solr/8.11.1/solr-8.11.1.tgz
>>>>>>> d) tar xzf solr-8.11.1.tgz solr-8.11.1/bin/install_solr_service.sh 
>>>>>>> --strip-components=2
>>>>>>> e) vi ./install_solr_service.sh # You need to change SOLR_USER=solr 
>>>>>>> to SOLR_USER=tomcat in /etc/default/install_solr_service.sh file. 
>>>>>>> tomcat is 
>>>>>>> the user which has write permission over dspace folder if not replace 
>>>>>>> tomcat with the user you picked for dspace.
>>>>>>> f) bash ./install_solr_service.sh solr-8.11.1.tgz
>>>>>>> g) vi /etc/default/solr.in.sh # You need to add dspace folders in 
>>>>>>> Solr allowed paths.
>>>>>>> SOLR_OPTS="$SOLR_OPTS 
>>>>>>> -Dsolr.allowPaths=/opt/dspace/solr/statistics,/opt/dspace/temp/solr-data"
>>>>>>> h) cp -r /opt/dspace/solr/* /var/solr/data/ # Do this step after 
>>>>>>> installing dspace. You need to change /opt/dspace to the folder you 
>>>>>>> installed dspace into.
>>>>>>> i) chown -R tomcat:tomcat /var/solr/data/ # You need to change the 
>>>>>>> user and the group if it differs from the user and group you chose for 
>>>>>>> dspace.
>>>>>>> j) systemctl enable solr
>>>>>>> k) systemctl restart solr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *** You might fall into this issue at a later stage. Running 
>>>>>>> /opt/dspace/bin/dspace solr-reindex-statistics for the first time will 
>>>>>>> complain with the error message you see below but running it again will 
>>>>>>> complete successfully ( I think the error shows up because of the 
>>>>>>> existence 
>>>>>>> of /opt/dspace/solr/statistics/core.properties file which gets deleted 
>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>> the first run) .  Maybe Tim can shed some light on this.
>>>>>>> ### error message ### Could not create a new core in 
>>>>>>> /opt/dspace/solr/statistics as another core is already defined there 
>>>>>>> ### 
>>>>>>> end of error message ###
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ######## Steps to uninstall Solr on Ubuntu manually ##########
>>>>>>> systemctl stop solr
>>>>>>> rm -r /var/solr
>>>>>>> rm -r /opt/solr-8.x.x
>>>>>>> rm -r /opt/solr
>>>>>>> rm /etc/init.d/solr
>>>>>>> deluser --remove-home solr
>>>>>>> deluser --group solr
>>>>>>> update-rc.d -f solr remove
>>>>>>> rm -rf /etc/default/solr.in.sh
>>>>>>> #################################################
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mohammed
>>>>>>> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:49:39 PM UTC+3 DSpace Technical 
>>>>>>> Support wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 'solr' user should be created by default when installing Apache 
>>>>>>>> Solr.  In any case, Apache Solr recommends *not* running Solr as root. 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Instead, they recommend creating a "solr" user (it could be named 
>>>>>>>> something 
>>>>>>>> else if you want) to install Solr under.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See this Apache guide for taking Solr to production for more 
>>>>>>>> information: 
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_1/taking-solr-to-production.html#create-the-solr-user
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>  That guide is also linked to from the main "Installing Solr" 
>>>>>>>> instructions 
>>>>>>>> in the "Preparing for Installation" section: 
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_1/installing-solr.html#preparing-for-installation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully that helps explain things better!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:16:07 AM UTC-6 Chris Clawson 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have Solr 8.11.1 extracted to /opt/solr-8.11.1 . The command 
>>>>>>>>> line example (provided in the Apache Foundation quick start 
>>>>>>>>> instructions), 
>>>>>>>>>  ./bin/solr start -e cloud , produces a 'welcome' message.
>>>>>>>>> Step #13 of the DSpace 7.x installation page instructs me to copy 
>>>>>>>>> dspace configsets to the installed Solr directory. (Fine.)
>>>>>>>>> The second part of step #13 is telling me to change the 
>>>>>>>>> group/owner of these configsets to 'solr':
>>>>>>>>> chown -R solr:solr /opt/solr-8.11.1/server/solr/configsets
>>>>>>>>> What group/user solr is this? It is not defined anywhere that I 
>>>>>>>>> can find, and the Apache Foundation doesn't mention it anywhere I can 
>>>>>>>>> see 
>>>>>>>>> or understand.
>>>>>>>>> Right now, the entire Solr directory is group and user owned by 
>>>>>>>>> root:root. My DSpace operating system user will be 'tomcat'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please explain how and why I should use this 'solr' user and 
>>>>>>>>> group. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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