Satya,

Dorothea Salo wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Satya Ranjan Sahu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>           I am trying to remove some fields in input-forum.xml of a DSpace
>> 1.4.2 installation.  But when I am trying to remove 'citation' field, it is
>> showing internal error.
>>
>> And it should be checked by default the option "The item has been published
>> or publicly distributed before" in the first 'Submit: Describe this Item'
> 
> Short answer: In 1.4.2, you are stuck. You CANNOT have the "published
> before" box checked and *not* have the Citation field. I can't think
> of a way to hide the field with CSS, because there's no way to put a
> class or ID attribute on it, is there?
> 
> Longer answer:
> 
> The "published before" checkbox adds dc.date.issued, dc.citation, and
> dc.publisher to the next form page when it is checked. This creates a
> lot of bad and opaque interactions, the one you cite among them. Even
> worse, if you add a default value to the collection for one of those
> three fields, but the hapless depositor doesn't check the "published
> before" checkbox, DSpace pitches a (completely incomprehensible) blue
> fit at the depositor.

Dorothea's right...DSpace 1.4.2 does require the "citation" field if you 
  check that "The item has been published ..." option on the first page.

> 
> (This got me in trouble with a custom thesis form, which does need
> dc.date.issued despite unpublished status. That's when *I* pitched a
> blue fit.)
> 
> Tim, do you want to comment on how you've gotten around this issue in 1.5?

I actually cannot claim to ever have gotten around this issue in DSpace 
1.5.   DSpace 1.5 does have the configurable submission, which will 
allow you to remove that first "initial questions step" (which asks 
whether an item has been published before).   However, I believe in 1.5 
if you want to have that "initial questions step", you are still 
required to have that "citation" field whenever that "The item has been 
published..." option is checked.  Someone should definitely correct me 
if I'm wrong.

The route we've gone is to remove that "initial questions step" 
altogether (and create a custom initialization step to default all the 
answers to being checked all the time).   However, we still include that 
"citation" field on our later metadata step.  I admittedly haven't tried 
to remove that "citation" field altogether...so, I don't know if that in 
itself could still cause issues in 1.5?

- Tim






> Dorothea
> 

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Tim Donohue
Research Programmer, Illinois Digital Environment for
Access to Learning and Scholarship (IDEALS)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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