On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Robin Taylor <robin.tay...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> I don't think it's a daft question at all, but then I am known to ask some
> very daft ones myself :)
>
> I think the problem is that we wrap the data up in formats that make
> extraction difficult and then need to go to great lengths to try and extract
> that data. I don't know of any widely used, reliable methos as yet. Better
> to move towards formats that make extraction easy. Microsoft docx documents
> looks like a step in the right direction to me.


No, no, no, please let us not use formats invented by Microsoft. We need
open formats not closed-secret-proprietary ones. And if Microsoft claim it
is open we must not believe them. Just look at their track record. I realise
that PDFs are not completely open either but they are bound to be more open
than anything Microsoft produce. And I was talking about PDFs.

But I do not want the discussion to focus on file formats. As I said
originally,

> But if a society had
> conventions for the layout of the article, specifying
> location and format of title, authors, abstract, bibliography
> etc, then it might be possible


> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Marlow [mailto:marlow.and...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: 13 December 2008 23:53
> > To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [Dspace-tech] standards to facilitate metadata
> > extraction duringtext extraction
> >
> > This may seem like a crazy or naive question, but is there
> > any standard laid down by publishers or societies that
> > authors must adhere to so that the extraction of metadata
> > from articles can be easily automated? Having just performed
> > a text extraction on a non-searchable PDF I see that there is
> > no easy way to get any metadata out. But if a society had
> > conventions for the layour of the article, specifying
> > location and format of title, authors, abstract, bibliography
> > etc, then it might be possible. I have seen a very regular
> > visual layout in the PDFs from some places. Using OCR
> > techniques it might be possible to locate blocks of interest.
> > It might also be possible from a text extraction but that
> > might be harder since all visual layout information is gone
> > (at least it was with the tool I used). I wonder if this is
> > being considered by anyone.
>
-- 
Regards,

Andrew M.
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