On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, John Mark Ockerbloom <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Andrew Marlow wrote:
>
>> Your web site is great. Yes, the subject hierachy you have is the sort of
>> thing I am after.  I did not see the traditional breadcums that show the
>> hierarchy though. You have opted for saying 'broader' or 'narrower'
>> classification.
>>
>
> Yes, because LC subject headings doesn't represent a traditional
> hierarchy, but more of a conceptual network.  That is, there's more
> than one "broader term" in use for many terms, so there's no
> canonical hierarchy to hang bread crumbs off of (unlike DDC,
> LC call numbers, or UDC).


This is very interesting. I have been talking to one of our business
analysts and she says that modern computer-based subject classifications
need not be hierachy based as DDC is. But the screen mockups of the new
system still show breadcrumbs during subject navigation. She was involved in
the creation of these mockups. I think she knows what she is talking about
so I think this shows that actual implementations of conceptual networks are
very thin on the ground. The mockups are probably showing breadcrumbs
because we are so used to systems like DDC, but she is aware we could, and
probably should, do better.

To see a clearer example of the complexity involved,
> look at "Information storage and retrieval systems",
> which I have a subject map for at
>
>
> http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/browse?type=lcsubc&key=Informationstorage
>  and retrieval systems
>
> Here, notice that there are multiple broader, narrower, and related terms;
> no single thing "above" it in a breadcrumb hierarchy.  (Instead, you
> can go up whichever route you choose.)


This is fantastic. I want it!


> Is your system based on DSpace? You mentioned having to do some non-trivial
> programming. If your system is DSpace-based will you be able to contribute
> the code back to DSpace?
>

It's not DSpace based.  It's currently a Perl library drawing on some
> somewhat out of date metadata for the LC subject headings taxonomy local
> to Penn.


Hmm. Whilst your link shows some great categorization, stuff local to Penn
might be a problem when it comes to international systems (I am in the UK).


> I'm considering porting the subject mapping library to Java, though,
> for some other developments, which could in theory make it usable by Dspace
> if interest warrants.  (Or if anyone else wants to work on this, I can
> point folks to downloadable XML versions of the LC subject headings
> conceptual network.)
>
> John
>

I hope other people will be interested in this too. I think it would be a
fantastic addition to DSpace. In fact I think it would be good to add even
with the Penn local stuff present. After all, the controlled vocabularies
that come as standard are particular to certain locales, e.g the Swedish
Research Subject Categories. I am not sure it is possible to come up with a
subject categorization that is locale neutral. This reminds me of some work
I did in the financial sector where we had to classify certain equity time
series are belonging to certain industries. I found that the industry
classifications are very locale specific. For example, in Italy there is a
dedicated industry classification for terracotta! So maybe the only thing we
can do is add locale-specific controlled vocabularies then let the
administrator/configurator choose the closest from the ones available.
-- 
Regards,

Andrew M.
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