On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:32:52 -0400 Disconnect <dc.disconn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As was stated earlier, the installs were amazingly painful and finicky. > The install? Really? Is it so hard to install DSPAM? I find the installation easy. > The > upgrades were worse. > Why? I really don't understand that. > So it is sitting at 3.8.0 because I -really- don't want > to have it start dropping mail again, or blowing up, or not training, etc.. > Give me access to your system and I will install and configure DSPAM 3.9.0 in less then 30 minutes. Without dropping mails, blowing up, not training, etc... > The other reason is http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dspam .. > you're likely to find servers running that version until it gets changed. > The unstable bleeding-edge version is still 3.6.8... > I don't remember when I coded the Ebuild for Gentoo Linux. But it's long, long time ago. And I took extra time to make it flexible and easy for new users. If you look at the current Ebuild -> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/mail-filter/dspam/dspam-3.8.0-r15.ebuild?view=markup <- then you will see that the biggest part of it is for configuring DSPAM after installation. So in Gentoo land a lot of mail admins (well... in my eye an admin is more then just a user that happens to run something he/she is calling a 'server', but anyway... lets call those users for now admins) run DSPAM and have it configured with the help of the Ebuild. And when the update was from 3.6.8 to 3.8.0 the Ebuild managed all needed steps to make a painless migration/upgrade/whatever. I really don't understand why Debian is keeping this ancient version of DSPAM in their repository and not offering their user base a newer version? Anyway... if they want they can run whatever version they like. They can even run Linux Kernel 0.9 if they like. Whatever makes them happy is good. There are areas in IT where one should keep up2date because the problem the application is solving is so fast moving that you should move with your application too. DSPAM has the benefit of not being one of them since the real power of DSPAM comes from the data it processes and this is always up2date. However... 3.6.8 has many things that are better done in 3.8.0 (for example better tokenizers) and 3.9.0 is waaaay more stable then any older version of DSPAM. And 3.9.0 uses less memory and CPU to deliver better result and user experience. If this all does not count then I don't know what counts? > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch> wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:35:35 +0000 > > Mark Dadgar <m...@pdc-racing.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > > > > Either that or grab the SPEC file and modify the paths inside the SPEC > > file. I however would STRONGLY recommend to keep the RPM layout (because of > > future updates). > > > > > > Because of that, I'm probably going to preserve the database, groups, and > > dspam.conf and reinstall everything via RPM. That way I can just do rpm > > updates in the future. > > > > > > > btw: the upgrade to 3.9.0 is probably the easiest upgrade in DSPAM > > history. > > > > > > > > > > That is EXCELLENT to hear. Great work. > > > > > Don't take my word. Ask the others. I am pretty sure most of them will > > confirm what I have written. It is really easier to get now DSPAM up and > > running. And I added a bunch of additional tools to make maintenance of > > DSPAM fool proof. I invested some time to make those tools require less of > > your time while helping to keep DSPAM working like a Swiss clock (minimizing > > admin time while maximizing accuracy and user experience). > > > > > > > - Mark > > > ----- > > > m...@pdc-racing.net > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint > > What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? > > Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first > > _______________________________________________ > > Dspam-devel mailing list > > Dspam-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first _______________________________________________ Dspam-devel mailing list Dspam-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-devel
