-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:41:09 +0200
> Von: "Imposit.com - Webmaster" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [Dspam-user] DSpam Web Gui outside mail server

> Ahh Ok New One, Im sorry i missed this. Just know the locking from 3.8.0
> and
> i know that NFS has some issues with that.
>
I never did 3.8.0 with NFS. So I can't say anything about it. If 3.8.0 had 
issues with locks on NFS then I am very confident that 3.9.0 has the same 
issues.


> And hey the Clustered FS,.. why not... 
>
Well... I planed that long ago and somehow never got the time to do it. And 
then I had to build up this new setup and did it there. Everything in test 
worked flawless but in production? NO! Problems all over the place. And I had 
to step back and use NFSv4. Then later on another setup for just web pages I 
tried a newer revision and guess what? Works without problems. So I am using it 
there and on the mail cluster I just moved DSPAM_HOME to be on the clustered FS 
but not the IMAP/POP boxes. I will do that on the next planed maintenance 
schedule.


> Do you need a good onlinebackup ?
> 
Well... would be much to backup online:
erebos / # for foo in a b c d;do fdisk -l /dev/sd${foo}|grep 
^Disk[[:space:]]/dev;done
Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
Disk /dev/sdc: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes
Disk /dev/sdd: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes
erebos / #


> i offer you one *harharhar*
>
You could offer the DSPAM community a special price :)
I guess online backup is for a lot of the users in the DSPAM community a issue. 
I remember that the old DSPAM page had a page about users/companies using DSPAM 
or partners of the DSPAM project. I am sure that the new DSPAM admins of the 
DSPAM community project would not be against adding a small text and a link to 
Imposit.com if you would offer a special price for online backup to users of 
DSPAM :)
Or maybe you could sponsor the DSPAM project and they add a link to Imposit.com 
and a text saying that your company is an official sponsor and that Imposit.com 
offers a special price for online backup to members of the DSPAM community 
project/mailing list? I just read some days ago an article where they claimed 
that good software is not judged by the quality of the software and the code 
but by marketing. Sad but somehow true. So you could sponsor a DSPAM marketing 
campaign and the community project could add a link to Imposit.com in return?



Gruss

Steve

> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Steve [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 07. August 2009 01:07
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [Dspam-user] DSpam Web Gui outside mail server
> 
> 
> No. On the backend (in my case MySQL) th user preferences are there and
> the
> DSPAM tables.
> 
> But on the network shared drive I have the quarantine box and the
> userstats.
> 
> And yes! It works! Without issues. John did some code to avoid problems.
> See
> CHANGELOG:
> =========================
> [20040607.1800] jonz: replaced quarantine locking with fcntl locking
> 
> replaced quarantine .lock'ing with fcntl locking and also applied it to
> locking .log files. fcntl should work over NFS.
> 
> [20030904.0700] jonz: nfs locking
> 
> modified lock.c to work over nfs mounts, only checking pid when hostname 
> matches.  maximum 20-minute stale lock removal.
> =========================
> 
> And I am even more crazy then average DSPAM user. I don't use NFS or SMB
> or
> anything in that direction. I use a clustered and distributed filesystem
> and
> on top of that the FS does replication.
> 
> I might in the near future rewrite a part of the DSPAM code to allow me to
> log into the storage backend. As much as I like MySQL as much I do hate
> it.
> It is so damn stupid system. So I am going first to overload the logging
> mechanism in DSPAM and then later the quarantine part. The quarantine part
> is the one I don't like to code. The reason is that making one that fits
> everywhere is not easy to do with MySQL. That damn thing is ultra stupid.
> Assume you have set the maximum query to be 1MB. Now assume your mail is
> 5MB. So you have to split it into 1MB chunks. Or you go and add the 5
> parts
> and then concatenate them into one blob. But exactly this is not going to
> work. If you would say to MySQL something like CONCAT 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5
> then
> MySQL is not going to look at the (pseudo) query "CONCAT 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +
> 5"
> and say: oohh. The whole query is way, way below 1MB. No! It's going to
> count size of the FIELDS 1, 2, 3,4 and 5 and say: No! The fields together
> are above 1MB. That's stupid. This is then not max query size but max
> processing size or something like that. I hate that limitation in MySQL.
> It's ultra stupid. If I look how others have done it (for example
> Amavisd-new) then I just hate doing that code part. Amavisd-new btw is
> splitting at 16KB. Imagine how much records that will be for normal SPAM
> mails...
> 
> 
> // Steve
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Steve [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 06. August 2009 19:07
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: [Dspam-user] DSpam Web Gui outside mail server
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:34:29 +0200
> > > Von: "Sebastian Toepfer" <[email protected]>
> > > An: [email protected]
> > > Betreff: Re: [Dspam-user] DSpam Web Gui outside mail server
> > 
> > > Hallo,
> > > 
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Marc Franquesa" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:16 AM
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Dspam-user] DSpam Web Gui outside mail server
> > > 
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying dspam to replace spamassassin installation on my
> > > > Postfix+Dovecot Server.
> > > >
> > > > I have to servers: One is the mail server (Postfix+Dovecot) an
> another
> > > > the Web Server (Apache+MysQL with dspam tables)
> > > >
> > > > ¿Is possible to use de dspam-cgi in this configuration? IE. having
> > the
> > > > dspam-cgi in another server that isn't the mail server?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > yes and no. you need on webserver the dspam binary (for retrain and so
> > on)
> > > and dspam configure plus access (share) to the dspam home (for stats, 
> > > quarantine) from the mail server. the dspam configuration must sync
> and
> > it
> > > should work, but I'm sure nobody has run this setup before.
> > > 
> > I do run that. The sync part is not that important. The most important
> > part
> > (for me) is that the access to the storage backend is possible. The
> config
> > inside DSPAM is not so important for me since I use preference
> extensions
> > and all the data for each and every user is anyway in my backend
> storage.
> > So
> > as long as I can access the backend I have no issue in changed DSPAM
> > configuration on the filtering system. The Web UI is not affected by
> those
> > changes. However... the deliver part is important. So that has to be in
> > sync.
> > 
> > 
> > > now you can give you self the answer :)
> > > 
> > > sebastian
> > > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > > > And with phpcontrolcenter?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for suggestions
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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