All good and fine but i dont think it will help you that much.
The Space the Databases need is only a tiny bit of Server Resources you’ve to 
think about.
The Quarantinespace for Example can be a bit bigger than your SQL Tables.

Think about CPU Load for Virusscan (if you do) 

And much more Important than discspace is the Mysqlserver (if you use that one) 
optimization.

Think about placing an mysql Instance on your Dspam Server so you never get a 
Problem with simultan connections.
You have to use the Socket Address instead of Ip Address in that case.
You have to know that you cannot simply raising up the Simultan connections 
since Mysql bind a Lot of Resources for each predefined Connection.

Theres also a thing of Optimizing your Memory management on Mysql - but heres 
the angle.
You cannot put a dspam database to an common mysql server because the settings 
for an optimal dspam database server normaly do not match the settings
You need for an webserver for example.

So its always better to have your mailserver instance (like for accounts and 
dspam) but not to much else. Keeps your management easier and you do not
Slow down you Mysql host for other apps.

You also gonna need a lot of ram for your key buffers if you wanna have a fast 
response time. If not you need a separate instance - otherwise dspam will fill 
up
All your ram you might need elsewhere---

Means if you have enough ram you can run the mysql server on a shared instance 
but its not recommended. If you have not enough you need a separate.
In that case you can save ram with giving lower buffers on dpsam (which cost 
response time for dpsam but on a mailserver it should doenst matter)

Also think about the engine you might wanna use (I recommend myisam since I 
cannot see the need of transactions)


BTW if difference between 7 and 20 gig discspace matters to you , consider to 
turf of quarantine anyway - it will not make you happy :-)


Hope I could help a bit :-)


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Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Februar 2010 11:50
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [Dspam-user] Poll about database sizes

>> On Sunday 14 February 2010 12:25:40 Stevan Bajić wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:49:20 +0000
>>>
>>> Kārlis Repsons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I know it depends on quite many factors in total, but anyway, could
>>> we
>>> > make a small list of values and info in here like this:
>>>
>>> what do you mean? We all here should submit our values?
>> Presuming, that my variables list was sufficiently complete +
>> significant
>> to
>> understand what total diskspace dspam can take up in what case -- yes!
>> Otherwise correct it...
>>
Okay. In order to compute the size you need for the database you need to
have the following numbers/figures:

* Strategy of purging. How many days do you want to keep the data for
users to allow them to retrain? (using SQL purging this would be 14 days)

* Amount of INBOUND mail in bytes you get in the range of purge days.
(using SQL purging this would be 14 days).

* Count of INBOUND mails you get during the purge day range. (like above:
14 days is the default).

* Tokenizer used in DSPAM.



An example:
* Purging daily keeping 14 days of signatures
* Amount of INBOUND mails in 14 days: 14'680'064 bytes
* Used tokenizer: OSB

Now assume that the average word length is just 5 characters then those
14'680'064 bytes would result in +/- 2'446'678 words (this is 5 bytes for
a word + one character for a word boundary = 6 bytes). Now assume that
those 2.5 million words or words order would all be unique. Then this
would result in: ( 2'446'678 - 5 ) * 4 = 9'786'692 tokens for OSB

Now depending on what database schema you have, you could compute the
total amount needed for the table "dspam_token_data" to hold those +/- 10
million tokens.

The size needed for "dspam_signature_data" will be not more then the
amount of INBOUND. Aka: 14GB

This should give you a base number for your setup. And like every good
system admin you should plan for the future. You sure have somewhere
laying around statistical data about the grow you had in the past
regarding INBOUND mail. Just use those numbers and compute what you expect
for the near future and use those numbers to compute the needed storage
for DSPAM.

And to be on the sure side I would suggest you to multiply that number by
1.5 or 2.0 so that you have room for unexpected grow.

That's how I would do that computation. Asking other here about how much
space they use is not going to bring you big benefits. Every setup is
different.

The numbers I mentioned above are way, way, way to big. You usually don't
have 100% new tokens for each and every message. But it's never bad to
compute the worst possible scenario and use that as you absolute highest
number then computing everything with to optimal values and then later
realize that you need to upgrade your hardware.


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