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> From: Tom Hendrikx <t...@whyscream.net>
> To: dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dspam-user] Signature location enhancement request
> 
> This way of solving your issue is very opaque to users. They want
> something to happen (receive spam in their INBOX), but need to change
> something completely else (signature location) to accomplish that.
> 
> The correct way of solving this, would be to enable to user to activate
> the sorting of spam. This can easily be by creating a global sieve
> script for spam filtering, and "include" it by default in the 
> user's
> personal sieve script. The user can easily disable it there when needed,
> 


Actually, no it's not opaque. To use POP, there are actually a few preferences 
they need to change. Signaturelocation would be one, subject prefix would be 
another so they can still see what is spam, and, the action has to be 
configured so they can tag it. This allows them to use their mail program to 
sort if they wish and still use pop. Of course, the user might not think of all 
these things, so, we of course have a way the user can simply say use pop3, 
which sets these for them.

Now, the issue is sieve can't know whether or not to apply the script or not. 
We certainly don't want each user to HAVE to have a script (<5% use one), so, a 
global script is ideal. We certainly don't want them to be able to turn off the 
move if they are indeed using IMAP since then that in turn affects the 
operation of dovecot antispam. So, things rapidly get more complex. 

If you then say let's make a default script for all users, now the issue is 
what if they go back to imap, and, have changed their script. Now it's an issue 
for detecting how to modify the user script. And of course, this is assuming 
sieve, there is procmail et all as well.

All these complications (and there are more, just in the interest of brevity) 
go away if the header was simply not there. When you have more than a thousands 
users, this becomes a larger issue.

If you have a good solution that addresses all these issues (not just your 
own), be happy to hear. The one you proposed does not.

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