Hello Anthony,

On 09.05.2012 13:13, P.V.Anthony wrote:
> On 05/09/2012 06:02 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote:
>
>> You should! Creating a MERGED group that you use globally (aka global
>> merged group) will allow you to create one big group and share that data
>> with all the users. Allow me to explain (just an artificial example to
>> illustrate the benefit for you):
>> global merged group: 1'000'000 spam messages trained  / 1'000'000
>> innocent messages trained ->   500MB data
>> user 1: using all data from 'global merged group' + his own data: maybe
>> 100 spam messages / 100 innocent messages ->   10 MB data
>> user 2: using all data from 'global merged group' + his own data: maybe
>> 10 spam messages / 10 innocent messages ->   1 MB data
>> user 3: using all data from 'global merged group' + his own data: maybe
>> 100 spam messages / 100 innocent messages ->   10 MB data
>> user 4: using all data from 'global merged group' + his own data: maybe
>> 10 spam messages / 10 innocent messages ->   1 MB data
>> user n: using all data from 'global merged group' + his own data: maybe
>> 100 spam messages / 100 innocent messages ->   10 MB data
>>
>> So the more users you have the less data per user is used since they all
>> share the data from the globally merged user. For your setup I would
>> strongly suggest to create that globally merged group and train it with
>> dspam_train. Search the mailing list for details how to do that. In the
>> past two to three weeks I have explained one approach of how to do it.
> Need advice on groups. My users do not teach their dspam. I have to
> repeat this again, my users do not teach their dspam.
>
> Currently I am using my account as GLOBAL GROUPS. Here is my group
> setting in /home/dspam/group
> groupGlobal:classification:*myacco...@example.com.sg
>
> I train my account whenever there is an error. I am using TOE. Here is
> my dspam_stats.
>
> myacco...@example.com.sg:
>               TP True Positives:                 18152
>               TN True Negatives:                 59943
>               FP False Positives:                  233
>               FN False Negatives:                 1216
>               SC Spam Corpusfed:                     0
>               NC Nonspam Corpusfed:                  0
>               TL Training Left:                      0
>               SHR Spam Hit Rate                 93.72%
>               HSR Ham Strike Rate:               0.39%
>               PPV Positive predictive value:    98.73%
>               OCA Overall Accuracy:             98.18%
>
> Is this the best type of group to use when my users do not train their
> dspam? Or should I use merged group? The sad part is my users do not
> train dspam.
I love global merged groups but in your case the best group would 
probably be a global shared group. Are the users on your system having 
all +/- the same mail behaviour? I mean: do they get +/- the same type 
of mail and would they classify +/- the mail the same way? If the answer 
to this is yes then you should use a global shared group. If you have 
however a bunch of users having different behaviour then you could still 
go with a shared group by grouping the users with the common behaviour 
into one shared group and put the other either in no group at all or put 
them at least into a merged group and train from time to time the merged 
group with Spam (for example from http://untroubled.org/spam/) and with 
Ham from your system.


> Advice is appreciated.
>
> P.V.Anthony
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-- 
Kind Regards from Switzerland,

Stevan Bajić


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