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> Datum: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:38:13 -0500
> Von: Charles Steinkuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: [dspam-users] Site-wide filtering at smtp time

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> I'm looking at ways to integrate dspam into our qmail infrastructure and
> am considering doing site-wide filtering to bounce particularly 'spammy'
> spam at SMTP time.
>
Bouncing? Since I don't know QMail good enough I wanted to ask you how you 
would implement that? Can you process a inbound message by sending/pipe it to a 
DSPAM instance or binary and parse the result?


> I'm currently running qmail with spamassassin and no
> per-user spamassassin configuration tweaks.  This lets me bounce mails
> with really high spam scores, while passing more questionable mail
> through to the user.
> 
> I'd like to have dspam run at smtp time with 'generic' user settings.
>
This would be possible.


> Individual settings could be pulled in at local-delivery time, once
> address aliases and forwarding has been dealt with.  This probably means
> dspam would scan delivered messages twice
>
Processing a message multiple time is no problem for DSPAM. If I understand you 
planed design, then on the first scan you will use DSPAM as source for getting 
scores and then bounce/drop/reject to spammy messages. And then later at 
local-deliver you do the proper/real scanning and tagging. If this is the case, 
then the first scan SHOULD NOT tag the message.


> , but that doesn't worry me too
> much (the amount of real mail is pretty insignificant compared to the
> amount of spam we receive, so scanning ham mail multiple times isn't a
> serious load issue).
> 
You will probably scan spam mail as well multiple time (depending on the user 
tokens). But DSPAM is fast. Compared to SA it is even ultra fast.


> I'm thinking about having spamd
>
You probably mean DSPAM?


> run at smtp time using a 'global' user
> combined amd making all users members of an innoculate group, but am not
> sure if this will do what I'm after.
> 
Just don't tag the message in the first scan. Use something like 
"--mode=notrain --classify --stdout" in the first scan (but you need then to 
parse the output) and scan normal in the second scan.


> Is anyone doing anything similar, and if so, how do you have dspam
> configured?
> 
Vanquish (-> http://www.vanquish.com/ . They are one of the sponsors of DSPAM 
and have a very good reputation for the messaging services they offer) has a 
QMail setup with DSPAM. As far I know they do scan the message as well multiple 
times.

If I am not wrong, some of their staff are members of this list as well. Just 
wait and look if they respond.

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> Charles Steinkuehler
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>
Steve

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