At 02:17 PM 6/23/2008, you wrote:
> >
>
>DV Dongles attach to:
>
>1) DPLUS on a gateway
>2) Reflectors

Yep.  Got one so I should have some idea what they can do. :)

>Many of us have hoped that D-STAR would not become Echolink.  A DV
>Dongle is a useful accessory that can be adapted to a few different
>applications, but it currently has some limitations and a simple
>lashup to make an L-Node is going to have issues (Of course an RP2D is

Well, a couple of things.  The thing I least like to see is the 
"balkanisation" of ham radio - little groups sitting in their 
corners.  However, it is obvious that the best D-STAR experience is 
going to come from native D-STAR radios.  Also, there's a practical 
side to this.  Several years ago, the NHC decided that keeping links 
open to both IRLP and Echolink is duplicating resources, so the two 
have been combined for their nets, using progressively more 
sophisticated techniques.  At the same time, the networks have been 
essentially kept separate.  The crossover can only take place at 
designated points (i.e. the shared or linked conferences).

Now we're crossing the same bridge again, with some areas migrating 
to D-STAR, which is currently incompatible with the existing systems.

>basically an L-NODE, but you need a D-STAR radio to talk to it,
>specifically an ID-1).  People are going to do this anyway, but often
>someone new to D-STAR will try this before they gain experience with
>the fullness of D-STAR and the issues raised in the now somewhat dated
>article I reference should be understood before attempting the same.

I certainly agree, people need to understand the issues.  The 
scenarios I'm most interested in are the ones which have the least 
potential for conflict with callsign routing - linking gateways to a 
legacy network, linking a reflector to an IRLP/Echolink network, 
linking an individual analog repeater to a D-STAR reflector or gateway.

Obviously, for a full D-STAR experience, you need a D-STAR 
radio.  But interoperability is too useful to diss it out of hand.

On an unrelated note, I find callsign routing to be just a bit too 
quirky.  Too much fiddling with the radio at times.  Useable while 
pedestrian mobile, but not something I'd attempt while driving, even 
with the radio assisting with the gathering of the routing info. 
:)  And when a third stations comes up from another gateway, then it 
gets confusing :D (yes, have had that where a third party routes in 
and gets in between overs).

73 de VK3JED
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