--- In [email protected], "n0uyx" <n0...@...> wrote:
>
> [Moderator: Simple answer "Yes"]

Actually, moderator, the simple answer is "no".  The front 
panel "message" is not a message but a comment that is repeated as 
long as you are transmitting and is -not- passed to the Icom serial 
port.  It is also not part of the D-STAR protocol but an Icom 
extended use of the data portion of the digital voice frame.

The inclusion of the front panel "message" in the Icom GPS strings is 
also an Icom extension and is not part of the D-STAR protocol.  That 
is also repeated continuously while a person is tranmitting voice if 
GPS mode is enabled (GPS-A mode uses a different comment field).

It is very misleading to claim that the Icom radios do messaging.  
They don't.  GPS mode includes a fixed message that is repeated with 
the GPS information that can be retrieved via the serial port, 
period.  Unlike AX.25, this information is not protected, is not 
modifiable while transmitting, and is repeated as long as the radio 
is keyed down.

It is a mistake to look at the D-STAR digital voice protocol as a 
data protocol like AX.25.  It isn't.  They are completely different 
animals.  I understand N0UYX's consternation over this discussion.  
Because Icom called the front panel pre-programmed comment 
a "message", everyone assumes (bad word, especially in this case) 
that the radios are messaging capable or that the protocol has 
messaging built-in.  They aren't and it doesn't.  D-STAR is purely a 
digital bit-streaming transport protocol which does it jobs (DV and 
DD) very well.  Programs like D-RATS, D-Chat, D-PRS, etc. make use of 
the Icom serial port extension for their transport mechanism (very 
well, also) but the serial port extension or the protocols those 
programs used should not be confused with the programmable radio 
capabilities or the D-STAR protocol.

73,

Pete AE5PL

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