On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:47 AM, genedathe wrote:

> Thanks for the comments, Nate.
>
> I'm just stirring the pot here for fun.
>

Totally understandable.  I've NEVER done that.  ;-)
> I see 1.2DV as nothing new, as I have many radios that reach repeaters
> now...
>

Also understand.  The issue here might be... if you're going to have  
an ID-1 and do DD (your comments below), it's nice not to HAVE to have  
a VHF/UHF rig with you if your D-STAR repeater "stack" has at least  
two bands (1.2 DV and "something else"), and you can talk to the kids  
over on VHF from your 1.2 rig, by just callsign routing to your other  
module or their callsign, and not have to have two rigs with you at  
all times.  Having both 1.2 DD and 1.2 DV at the repeater site would  
make that difference.

Also if your area does happen to have a 1.2 GHz analog FM repeater or  
two still around, you'll have a way to access those also.  We still  
have ours here, but it's dead... the club is considering replacing it  
with D-STAR...

> I see 1.2DD as the real performance upgrade: My laptop goes plug and
> play into my ham radio (ID-1), and now my laptop can reach a repeater,
> and talk to other laptops. My "wow" is not the speed, but the
> capability. Off the shelf file transfer, how cool is that?
>

Be careful here... as someone pointed out, the DD module isn't really  
a "repeater" per se.  It's a data access point.  It gets you from your  
laptop to the network up at the mountain and gets NAT'ed out to the  
Internet.  You can certainly "reach another laptop" by pushing a file  
to a server on the net, and him pulling it back from there, but it's  
not a digipeater between you and him.  Certainly not a problem for  
communications, but it's not what some people expect when they read  
about the high-speed data system.  Other people (I think) have figured  
out how to either use the Icom Gateway computer as a file/chat/ 
whatever server on the internal network range, and/or have installed  
other PC's at the site in the private network range, but I don't see  
any need to have a server that's only available to those on D-STAR.   
Might as well make it public, and you can now get to it from D-STAR,  
your house, your cell modem, whatever.  Just my opinion...

(And since I don't have an ID-1, our local users probably know more  
about what it can and can't do right now than I do.  I'm happy to be  
corrected on any of the above.)

Nate WY0X

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