I think everyone should be more concerned about their own identification and not be so quick to judge others. If youre in the United States
and youre a U.S. Government Admin Law Judge or system trustee you arent going to be judging these matters in the first place. That being said this of course doesnt mean we cant have our own opinions. Mine is below. Now on to Moes final comment I wouldn't take that interpretation, especially if it doesn't automatically ID at the end of a call. I dont know too many operators that utter the last thing out of their mouth at the end of a series of transmissions is their call sign! Most operators add niceties like 73, closing comments, operating signals like QRT after giving their call. In CW & RTTY we use Prosigns K, SK, VA or AR So as long as your last transmission contains your call sign then havent you properly identified? So your last D-STAR transmission contains your call sign if you properly program your call in the MYCALL and dont do something stupid like the lid in Denver that continues to use RG8U. I would argue that if your placing information in a transmission which by design is suppose to contain your legal call or during an operation which contains a tactical call sign assigned to a group while the net is using legal calls then youre in violation of the intent of the law and good amateur operating practices. § 97.119 Station identification. (a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the transmissions from the station known to those receiving the transmissions. No station may transmit unidentified communications or signals, or transmit as the station call sign, any call sign not authorized to the station. So if contrary to design the operator places anything other than their legal call sign in the MYCALL I say they are not operating with Good Amateur Radio Practices. For privacy you may choose not to put anything in the MYCALL field and only voice ID but then you shouldnt be allowed access through a repeater or gateway. In other words keep your operation on simplex so as not to put others at possible legal violations. Perhaps we as a collective group need to institute some self governing and require only legal calls be in the MYCALL field or remove the user from access through local repeaters and gateways. This can be accomplished by the trustee enforcing operating agreements to access local repeaters and gateways or by the K5TIT group which operates a trust server most systems use for routing. If we squelch lids now perhaps calls like RG8U will fade away. Barry A. Wilson KAØBBQ D-STAR UR=/WØCDS B DD A 1299.9000 RPS DV A 1283.9625 -12.000 DV B 446.9625 -5.0000 DV C 145.2500 +0.6000 From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AB8XA Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:40 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Legally Identifying? > ==================================== > Clear as mud when applied to D-STAR? I think I've heard that DV is a > "phone" emission. But it carries data, too. It's two mints in one! Then perhaps it should be required to ID on both. > > To be safe - and also to assist those of us driving along the > highway and > can't stare at the display - I'd continue to give a verbal call sign. Agreed. > But to challenge the obsolete rules, I'd take the liberal > interpretation > and say the data carries the ID. I wouldn't take that interpretation, especially if it doesn't automatically ID at the end of a call. -- Moe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]