Dale,

Several of us like to think outside the box, adapt new technologies to existing 
technologies, enhance communication mediums, and promote Amateur Radio.

Personally, I would like to built a sort of Cross Band Repeater for D*STAR to 
FM. This would enable information to be passed during a disaster or other 
event. With HF Bands being so horrendous right now and with Hurricane Season 
here, I would like to know that if needed. We could transmit information from a 
field VHF/UHF radio to a base location and patch that person directly into the 
D*STAR network. Especially if we have critical information to pass.

It is all technology and without people thinking outside the box, we wouldn't 
be where we are today.

--- In [email protected], DALE                   BLANCHARD 
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> Why can't we keep Dstar digital communications pure digital? 
> Dale . 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hays" <j...@...> 
> To: "dstar digital" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:52:44 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Crossband DV to FM Methods 
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> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Bob Witte K0NR wrote: 
> > We've got a local D-STAR 70 cm repeater on the air and I am looking 
> > at approaches to allow access via analog FM users. 
> > (This is probably a religious issue, so please chill :-) 
> > I would keep the FM transmissions local and not repeat them out on 
> > the network. The intent here is to provide a bridging strategy for 
> > those times when an FM rig happens to be available but a DV rig 
> > is not. 
> > 
> After you have read and considered: 
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> http://k7ve.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=26 
> http://k7ve.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=26 
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> > My intent is to have the D-STAR 70 cm repeater crossbanded to 
> > a 2 Meter simplex frequency. Before I re-invent the wheel, 
> > I want to find out what other folks have tried. 
> > 
> > 1. It seems that the ICOM D-STAR controller is not very flexible 
> > and it would be quite the hack to interface an FM rig into it. 
> > Let me know if you've found a reasonable way to do this. 
> > 
> > 
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> There is no audio path in the the Icom D-STAR repeater or controller, 
> so there is no simple interface for audio in or out of the D-STAR 
> repeater. (D-STAR stays DIGITAL from end radio to end radio, so there 
> was no need to include audio/AMBE in the repeater or controller, 
> though I would have made a different design decision.) 
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> > 2. My preferred approach at this time is to configure two 
> > transceivers back-to-back with a controller in between. 
> > One of the transceivers needs to be a DV rig. 
> > I found DJ0ABR's web page with some nice work there: 
> > http://www.dj0abr.de/index_english.html 
> > 
> The main concerns here would be to get a legal ID on the analog FM 
> signal, in the US it only has to ID your (repeater) callsign (see: 
> http://k7ve.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=26 
> ), and insuring that the D-STAR ID on the D-STAR side is setup 
> properly: 
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> UR: CQCQCQ (or maybe something like FM RPT) 
> RPT1: KY1XYZ B (whatever the repeater is) 
> RPT2: *Not Used* (be sure no "G"/Gateway is here as that would get 
> into gateway and onto the D-STAR network) 
> MY: K0NR (or maybe K0NR R -- for repeater?) 
> 
> You probably need to put this in the repeater segment on the FM side 
> in light of the FCCs recent definition of a repeater ... 
> http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2009/db0323/DA-09-657A1.pdf 
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> > 
> > 3. The ID-880 has a packet port with a squelch line on it. 
> > Has anyone checked the behavior of this line in DV mode? 
> > Does it toggle in response to a decoded DV signal or what? 
> > This would be a convenient way to connect in but I fear that 
> > it might just be a carrier operated signal (which might 
> > still be workable). 
> > 
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> I don't know for sure, but its probably COS. 
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> > 4. Any other ideas? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance, 
> > 
> > Bob K0NR 
> > 
> > 
> > ,_._,___ 
> 
> John Hays 
> Amateur Radio: K7VE 
> j...@... 
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