On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:55 PM, k7ve wrote:

> Do you (the reader) want to be part of the solution and future or  
> grumble and keep the hobby stagnant and on a path to death?

I guess in your eyes, those of us who can't or choose not to afford  
Icom's grossly inflated D-Star products will be the death of the hobby  
and hence aren't good hams, eh?  No sir, it's the snobbery of big buck  
equipment owners such as that you expressed which will kill the  
hobby.  Let me be perfectly clear that I am NOT addressing all those  
here who have chosen to spend the bucks for D-Star--only those who  
denigrate those who don't.

> D-STAR is not expensive.

The facts contradict you.  I'm an all-Icom owner, IC-718, IC-208H, IC- 
T7H, and now IC-91AD, but have to admit, Yaesu is the better bang for  
the buck, even compared to Icom's analog products. If Icom really  
cares for D-Star, THEY will quit holding it back by grossly  
overpricing it compared to their own analog products, much less  
others.  You have bashed Yaesu and Kenwood but they're still selling  
new analog radios (as is Icom), and their affordability is doing far  
more to get new hams on the air than the overpriced whiz-bang  
technology of D-Star.

FT-60R $189.95 Dual-band, single-watch HT
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/0060.html

VX-6R $229.95 Tri-band, single-watch HT
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/0666.html

VX-7R Tri-band, dual-watch HT $287.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/0777.html

IC-91A Dual-band, dual-watch HT $294.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/0091.html

IC-91AD Dual-band, dual-watch, D-Star HT $369.98
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/0091.html

IC-80AD New dual-band, dual-watch, D-Star HT $449.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/5180.html

IC-92AD Dual-band, dual-watch, D-Start HT $539.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/ht/5092.html

Single watch mobile (Icom to Icom):

Icom IC-208H $299.95 - $20 rebate
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/0208.html

Icom ID-880H $499.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/0880.html

Dual watch mobile/:

Yaesu FT-8900 $409.95
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/0890.html

Icom IC-2820 with UT-123 $519.95 + $259.95 = $779.85
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/2820.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/2820dprs.html

No sir, as long as Icom has apologists such as yourself rationalizing  
their high prices, they'll never come down to earth and become  
mainstream.

> Amateurs will eventually migrate to digital for VHF/UHF repeaters.

Maybe, but that's far from being the case now.  It's your dream.

> I imagine that at some point, not soon, the ratio of digital VHF/UHF  
> operations to analog FM will be similar to the ratio of SSB to AM  
> transmissions on HF.

Imagine/dream all you want, but the ratios are currently the opposite  
of your imagination--and will be so for a very long time, since sales  
of new radios, which is the only thing that will change the ratios,  
are still strongly on the analog side.

> Alinco - possibilities here for D-STAR radios.

A dream, not reality. It's as equally likely the Hyundai/Kia of VHF/ 
UHF will establish their own low-priced digital mode that will become  
more popular than D-Star.

> There are non-Icom D-STAR components coming out shortly.

More to dream about..a glimmer of hope.

Sir, while in your eyes, you may be promoting D-Star, your rant (the  
one you keep quoting yourself in follow-up messages) is probably doing  
it more harm than good.

--
73 de Moe


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