At 08:06 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

>Morning Tony
>
>That was MY point keep d-star and digital OFF the standard simplex 
>frequencies.
>NOW we all know that can be a problem SO .... Why not get the ARRL 
>to hold a vote of WHICH frequencies are most used by FM ?

Well, D-STAR needs to go somewhere, and the ARRL should be taking a 
leadership role over there.

>
>Likr here in Tampabay Florida ...
>
>We use 146.52 and 147.550 but little is on most others like 146.55, 
>146.58 ....

Interestingly enough, Australia is normally considered a "backwater", 
but here in Melbourrne, it's actually quite hard to find a free FM 
simplex frequency some nights.  A combination of geographic and 
cultural factors lead to this.  Geographically, Melbourne is 
relatively flat, so simplex works well over much of the 
city.  Culturally, clubs tend to congregate on various "club 
frequencies", which are often busy for extended periods with 
ragchewing.  Add several IRLP and Echolink simplex nodes, and 
frequencies run out rather rapidly.

Still, the WIA found some relatively unused frequencies in the packet 
radio segment, which were re-designated as D-STAR simplex.  Because 
we kept 25 kHz spacing, it's also possible to squeeze in between FM 
channels, if the recommended D-STAR frequencies are busy.

>  IF nation wide lets say 146.58 is little used then work  things 
> out to put D-Star/digital on that frequency and allow the locals to 
> work things out maybe placing d-star on a back up one in that location ?

That's something that should be looked into.  As I said, the WIA here 
does a reasonably good job of maintaining the band plans on a 
national basis.  I certainly find the US situation hard to follow by 
comparison.  In the cities, we follow the band plans closely.  In 
rural areas, things are a lot more open to local interpretation, 
because of the small number of hams in those areas.  I have been in 
areas where there were literally no others in FM range, without the 
aid of tropo - only parts of the band plans that matter there are 
satellites and the weak signal segment!  In such areas, FM users 
simply sit on 146.500 (national calling frequency), in case a passing 
mobile comes up.  While driving through a remote area, I heard 
someone calling on 146.500.  Turns out the guy driving the car behind 
me saw my antennas and took a punt that I was (1) a ham, and (2) 
listening on 146.500. :)

Now, I think it's a bit early to monitor 145.125 (national D-STAR 
calling frequency) while mobile in  remote areas, but one day that 
might happen down here.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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