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--- In [email protected], "milkman" <milkman21...@...> wrote:
>
> I think that you to are missing my point. None of the D-Star repeaters in my
> area are up and running. So no hw can you use what is not there? I DID NOT
> SAY THAT I CAN'T REACH THEM. I work mobile and base. It's that the repeater's
> not online! Please read what was said.
> And Ed himself said that D-Star is worthless to some locations. And I live in
> one of those locations. And like I said I can hit repleaters 100 miles away.
> Mobile and Base. So to me 40 miles is nothing. Everyone in America does not
> live in a D-Star hotspot. So that makes it worthless. I give up!
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "J. Moen" <jmm@> wrote:
> >
> > My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than
> > analog FM, as long as there's no multipath. I can work a D-Star repeater
> > on top of Mt. Diablo in northern California from Dixon with my 91AD running
> > less than 5 watts with an HT -- this is over 40 miles. In the greater San
> > Francisco Bay Area, we have six D-Star repeaters I'm aware of, not counting
> > ones north of the Bay, or over in Sacramento. They all work.
> >
> > I put up a D-Star Hotspot using a spare analog FM radio and a spare laptop
> > for $140. Though it has a lousy antenna, this gives me HT access ot the
> > D-Star network out about a mile, and when I crank the Hotspot power up from
> > 5 to 10 watts, I get mobile access out about 15 miles with the lousy
> > antenna.
> >
> > D-Star flat out works. If you live somewhere where it doesn't, that only
> > shows that those repeater operators are not achieving what almost all other
> > D-Star repeaters are doing. You should refrain from drawing a line through
> > your one data point.
> >
> > I have a friend living in a small town in Iowa. They don't have the
> > funding to put up an ICOM D-Star repeater. He and a few others bought ICOM
> > D-Star radios and have been operating simplex. But he now has a D-Star
> > Hotspot on the air, so he can get into the D-Star DPlus network of
> > repeaters and reflectors from his home area and while mobile. He may
> > convert it to a D-Star compatible repeater. I gave him the Hotspot
> > hardware, another friend gave him the computer, and he had a spare analog
> > radio. So he has D-Star network connectivity for no out of pocket costs.
> > Life is too short to complain -- get creative and enjoy!
> >
> > Jim - K6JM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: milkman
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:37 PM
> > Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed,You say that 37 mile is pretty far? I can hit repeaters over 100 miles
> > away everyday on 2m. I work more than one repeater 4 in Harrisburg, Pa- 2
> > in Hagerstown, Md - 1 in Salisbury, Md- 1 in Crisfield, Md. I work
> > Delaware, Virginia, & DC. All more than 40 miles. So how is D-Star better
> > than that if 37 miles is far? And I live in a hole. And yes NONE of our
> > D-Star repeaters are working! And I realize that not all 600,000+ Hams are
> > on VHF & UHF. But I do know that I can talk 50+ miles on 2meter simplex
> > mobile. And I would like to know what happens to D-Star when the power
> > fails. Can I still talk everywhere? I also think that D-Star equipment is
> > not cheap. I paid over $500 for a dual band. That I can't use where I live.
> > How is that cheap? (I paid $650 for my FT-857D and it covers everything).
> > And I'm not the worlds cheapest Ham. Yes I do own a few 2m & dual banders.
> > Plus an Icom 706MK2G, Yaesu FT.857D, Alinco DX-77T,& Ten-Tec Omni VI+. But
> > when I look at the Baltimore, MD/Washington, DC Metro area and only find 7
> > D-Star repeaters for 2meters. And I know that Maryland's D-Star do not work
> > at all. Also New York City ONLY have 3 D-Star repeaters. Which are 2 major
> > Metro Areas in the US. So I'm really confused. Where are the users? Sure
> > not here. Check the New York and Maryland, DC, DE, VA, & WVA area repeater
> > Council list. I guess it's that I feel robbed & lied too since there's
> > nothing here. Now I see it as a waste of money for my area. I think it
> > needs to be made public that D-Star is not up and running in all areas of
> > the USA. And I think that with over half of the 500 repeaters worldwide in
> > the US. Still comes out to 250. With 50 States that works out to an average
> > of 5 per State? And you say 37 miles is kinda far for a repeater? So that
> > means most of the Hams in the U.S. couldn't use D-Star if they wanted to.
> > But Ed I do thank very much for you openning my eyes to just how worthless
> > D-Star is for most of us living here in America. Thanks everyone for
> > helping find out that D-Star is not for everyone. Just a few select Hams.
> > Which I think is very unfair. And after getting the facts. For me and most
> > other Hams it is throwing good money after bad. Thanks again for letting me
> > know! I'm sure glad that I came here. This group is on the ball.
> >
> > These are up to date listings. With in the last month. Pages are dated.
> >
> > http://www.tmarc.org/index_files/Page403.html
> >
> > http://www.nationsdial.com/nk2u/
> >
> > Israel W1ASA
> >
>
