On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:50 AM, a cutler22 wrote:


I miss-read this tidbit -

Protocol forks are everpossible, and once the door for codec experimentation. *However*, the one advantage Codec2 would have any other competing protocol is time - it's the first on the scene and it's not like writing an competitive-to-AMBE codec is child's play - its damn hard!

Plus, competition in the DSTAR protocol field would invigorate increased innovation among protocols, a "marketplace" would develop and the best protocol would prevail.

With dual (or tri or quad etc) codec repeaters, any and all Codec2 offshoots would be implementable, however ICOM DSTAR radio users wouldn't hear a lick of difference - it's all translated to and from AMBE anyways...

-73, KE7HQY


Ummm -- you don't think profit driven code/vocoder development isn't pushing for innovation? They are out there, in the current marketplace, but so far AMBE is the best implementation for low bit rate, over radio voice ... and don't forget D-STAR protocol is also about the embedded data bits, not just getting voice from point A to point B.

The "open codec" argument is a religious one, not a pragmatic one.

If a truly competitive/better vocoder were to emerge, the commercial applications would outstrip any amateur use, and I doubt the "codec2" group would let millions of dollars in licensing fees just go out the door.

John D. Hays
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