I think that is a great idea. 
The only problem will be the states where DStar is not that active yet. 
Therefor 
the message would have to go some other direction. I doubt we could get a 
message across in a straight line.
I do believe that it can be done, if we get enough people involved. I talk 
simplex locally and get a much better signal with less power using the dv mode.
Count me in here in Fl!
 Gary J Miller
K4GJM 


"Think Positive, BE Positive" 




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From: htwrobel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 8:12:00 AM
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Proposal for a DStar experiment.

  
DStar is a really terrific new technology for the ham community. The innovative 
use of gateways and reflectors has made possible an easy, convenient wide area 
network where hams from around the country (and the world) can talk. I love the 
mode, but I have been wondering why the simplex side has been largely ignored. 

 
Given the high audio quality and somewhat improved range over traditional FM in 
the VFH / UHF bands I wonder what might be accomplished in a purely simplex 
manner. Given the recent awareness of the possibility of cyber attacks on the 
internet, or the possibility of solar events damaging the network 
infrastructure 
I wondered what DStar might offer as a partial solution.
 
As test of the capabilities of DStar I have wondered if it would be possible to 
pass a message from corner-to-corner across the country, say from Boston to San 
Deigo. Some folks say it can't be done, some think it might work. I would like 
to try. 

 
I envision something like the 'wave' at a stadium. (remember the RADIO RELAY 
part of ARRL?) Everyone gets a chance to play.
 
Here is the outline of the proposed experiment.
 
On a selected date, with lots of advance notice, a message will be sent from a 
Boston station operating on the local simplex frequency. That message would 
then 
be passed to as many other stations as possible.
 
The rules are really pretty simple – pass the message via simplex to any 
station 
south and/or west of your own position.  Basically we need to contact stations 
with a grid square lower than our own, or a local station in the same grid that 
is south and west.
 
I propose that the experiment be conducted on some convenient day – like Sunday 
morning, with a two to three hour window in the local time zone.  

 
The message exchange will simple be the (short) message, callsign, and 
gridsquare.  The submitted QSl data should include the time and frequency as 
well.
 
If we can collect all the QSL info from each operator we could look for all 
sorts of interesting data like longest single hop, most messages sent, most 
messages received, highest miles-per-hour, fewest hops per mile,  activity by 
state and probably a bunch more. I would love to crunch the data and make it 
available to the Dstar community.
 
I have a lot of questions so I'm looking for any suggestions or help the group 
can provide. Some questions are:
 
1. When is the best time to try such an experiment?
2. Would it make sense to try it more than once, maybe every two months, maybe 
alternating direction?
3. What to do when the chain is broken? This is a big one since it wouldn't be 
much fun the have half the country waiting for a new station to fill in a blank 
space.  I'm really stumped by this one. Is there some sensible way to start a 
new message on the far side of a broken chain? I suspect someone in our group 
has the answer.
4. How to report contacts to some central site. I'm sure the contest folks know 
exactly how to do this, but I really don't know the mechanics of collecting QSL 
data.
 
Anyway, I hope this might start some discussion that can get the experiment 
launched.
 
Thanks & 73
 
Ted W1GRI
 
 
 



      

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