Hello Dumux,

I am back with the same question and some more infos. The modeling approach for 
diffusion in Dumux is (in my opinion) wrong and gives unphysical results. This 
is most pronounced for diffusion in a gas phase and when the intrinsic 
permeability is low.

Consider the model setup depicted in Figure1.jpg. In this setup the only 
transport mechanism for H2O from the right boundary is diffusion because the 
sink of N2 is high and the advective flow is from left to right. In this setup, 
the pressure will drop to the right while the gradient of x_g^H2O is vice 
versa. However, the concentration of H2O will be lower at the right boundary 
and diffusion will occur from a lower to a higher concentration!
This is completely unphysical. There is no reason why the component should flow 
against its concentration gradient. The reason for this lies in the formulation 
of the diffusive fluxes:

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Where

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In the Dumux formulation, the second (pressure dependent) term on the very 
right is neglected resulting in the possibility that species diffuse against 
their concentration gradient.
The density gradient is proportional to the pressure gradient from left to 
right while the molfraction gradient is vice versa.
I hope this made things more clear.
I would recommend to use grad(rho*x) instead of grad(x) for the calculation of 
the diffusive fluxes.
I am always open for discussion.

Kind regards
Georg

Von: Dumux [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von 
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 14:30
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Betreff: [DuMuX] A fundamental question concerning diffusion in Dumux

Hello Dumuxers,

I was wondering why the diffusive fluxes in Dumux are defined as 
D*rho*grad(mol-or-massfraction). Typically one would use D*grad(c) (e.g. Ficks 
law) where c=rho*mol-or-massfraction. Using the Dumux equation means that local 
differences in the density are neglected for diffusive fluxes. Is there any 
reason/justification for this? Or is my thinking just wrong?

Best regards

Georg Futter

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