Hi Leo,

thanks a lot for your comments. There are in fact some strange things
going on at the upper boundary close to the no-flow boundary and the final 
boundary conditions is still ongoing work. In the current setup I think the 
infiltration flux is low enough and there seems to be no fully saturated 
wetting front.

However, the issues I described also happen when the infiltration flux
is set to zero, so I assume the (current) problem is not caused by the
boundaries.

Unfortunately integration timesteps are getting very low (< 1s) which
makes running the simulation for a while to get a stationary solution 
infeasible for me.

Best regards,
Samuel


On Wed, 2019-03-06 at 15:27 +0100, Stadler, Leopold wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
>  
> I haven't simulated flow in the unsaturated zone in the last years. 
> But so far I can remeber, it is hard to find good boundary
> conditions.
>  
> So I have some small comments on the boundary conditions on the top.
> If you have a no-flow condition in the middle for water and gas in
> combination
> with a high infiltation rate on both sides, this can lead to a fully
> saturated wetting
> front where the gas can not escape.
>  
> One solution is to check if the infitration rate is higher than the
> infiltraion
> capacity of your soil. If so, it is often better to switch to a
> Dirichlet
> condition with (fully saturated + pressure).
>  
> Looking on your inital SW_profile, the saturation above the layer
> (z=9m) is high,
> so a low capillary pressure looks realistic. In general it is easier
> to let the problem
> settle for a while to get realistic initial conditions.
>  
> Paraview is not the best tool for looking at your results since it
> interpolates also
> data that is constant inside your scv. You should imangine a scv
> arround every
> node.
>  
> If you have a fully saturated clay layer above the coarser sand, the
> air can be traped
> in the corser material. There are some nice movies "Water moevement
> in soil" on
> youtube.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Leo
> 
> > Samuel Scherrer <[email protected]> hat am 6.
> März 2019 um 14:36 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm currently trying to set up a 2D model for water, air, and heat
> flow
> > in the unsaturated zone with a clay layer between two sand layers.
> > 
> > The upper boundary is partly no-flow, partly fixed air pressure,
> > temperature, and water infiltration flux.
> > The side boundaries are no-flow boundaries.
> > The groundwater table is inside the domain, 1 m above the bottom
> > boundary, and the bottom boundary has a constant temperature and
> gas
> > content in water (since only the liquid phase is present) and it is
> a
> > no-flow boundary for air.
> > 
> > The formulation I'm using is air pressure - water saturation.
> > 
> > As a initial condition I'm using hydrostatic air pressure and a
> water
> > saturation calculated from hydrostatic capillary pressure, initial
> > temperature is the same as the boundaries.
> > 
> > I'm using the Box discretization.
> > 
> > The clay layer extends from 5m to 9m and the spatial parameters are
> > assigned such that vertices at 5m or at 9m still belong to the clay
> > layer (function isClay_ in problem.hh and spatialparams.hh).
> > 
> > When I run this setup I get high spikes in capillary pressure at
> the
> > boundaries between clay and sand, even in the initial output file
> (*-
> > 00000.vtu, shown in pc_initial.png). I also use the gnuplot
> interface
> > to plot the initial capillary pressure and saturation vs depth
> along
> > x=0 using the same method as for setting the initial conditions
> (i.e.
> > using the method initialSwitchVariable_(pos) for getting the
> saturation
> > and calculating the capillary pressure using the material law).
> > In this plot no capillary pressure discontinuities are visible.
> > 
> > In the first output this is only visible at the upper clay-sand
> > interface, where the capillary pressure is much lower than it
> should
> > be, but over time a very high pc develops at to lower clay-sand
> > interface(up to 1000 bar, see pc_5min.png and pc_final.png).
> > 
> > During inspection of the vtk-output with Paraview I also saw that
> the
> > porosity of the clay only reaches to slightly below 9m, while the
> > initial water saturation has the values it should have in clay up
> to
> > slightly above 9m (see porosity.png and
> initial_water_saturation.png).
> > The porosity is set using porosityAtPos in spatialparams.hh, the
> > initial water saturation with initialAtPos.
> > 
> > I figured it might be either due to my poor understanding of the
> Box
> > method, or might be related to the discontinuous water saturation
> (see
> > initial_Sw_profile.png).
> > 
> > Does anyone know what my problem is or what the solution could be?
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Samuel
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> 
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