------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Rehan AllahWala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Distributed Universal Number Discovery'" <[email protected]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Dundi] DUNDI for inter carrier exchange Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:26:31 +0500
Simon and Jim, Do you both yet use ENUM for delivery of voice calls yet as carriers ? (Pleae correct me if I am wrong) that DUNDI is more suitable for asterisk boxes to create seemless same extensions in different boxes so a corporate user can interface to each other without a lot of intelligence at user level. What is your say ? Have you tried using e164.org for enum dip for example ? Rehan > Hi Simon, > > Researching DUNDi opportunities is on our product roadmap for Q4 of this > year. We think your idea makes economic sense for CLECs (Competitive Local > Exchange Carriers) in the US. We would like to collaborate with you on your > effort. We will be able to contribute some hands-on effort starting in late > September. > > Until, then we look forward to discussion about what is needed for DUNDi to > be useful for the carrier market. > > Jim Dalton > VoIP Routing, Accounting, Security > 1.404.526.6053 > www.TransNexus.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Woodhead > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:07 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Dundi] DUNDI for inter carrier exchange > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm new to the list today so please forgive me if this is the > > wrong place to post this. > > > > I've been looking at DUNDI for a while and have implemented > > it internally. It is very impressive so thanks and praise to > > all those involved. > > > > The next stage for us is to implement it externally but > > whilst thinking about that something comes to mind. Is there > > scope within the specification to advertise rates, or has it > > already been discussed? > > > > Before you set about me, let me explain: > > > > - Yes, there is the obvious 'live LCR' type scenario where > > multiple termination providers could advertise their rates > > and any that are interconnected could be sent the call. That > > has a place but isn't the bigger application. > > > > - Of much more interest is the inter-exchange of traffic > > between carriers. I'm in the UK so the following may not be > > appropriate elsewhere but every call in or out of a carriers > > network results in a payment to/from the peer. The sum of > > those makes up the outgoing call cost but, more relevantly, > > represents an income on the incoming call. > > Currently, a carrier is better off receiving the call through > > PSTN than advertising a VoIP route through DUNDI but if they > > could publish a rate then their peers could choose the least > > cost route. Implicitly this would lead to lower costs for > > both parties even if the direct cost/revenues remained > > unchanged - carrier a could route to carrier c over VoIP, > > avoiding carrier b. Carrier b receives the call directly and > > gets the same income as he would have done from carrier c > > without the costs of the traditional interconnect. > > > > The second option is possible now between any two peers but I > > do think if it was built into a protocol like DUNDI it could > > give it significant traction and make the benefits of peering > > two-way. Taking my company as an example, it only makes sense > > to advertise routes to numbers on which we receive no ingress > > income. The vast majority, even where they terminate to VoIP, > > would not make sense as we'd lose the income. > > Granted, that income subsidises an expensive interconnect and > > the call would be coming over a much lower cost one, but > > there remains a real cost. Further, we offer numbers where > > the income directly funds another service such as overseas > > diverts which it would be impossible to advertise. If we > > could advertise them with a rate for interconnected peers, > > other participants could send traffic through on > > inter-carrier terms and we'd have the same income on a lower > > cost base. > > > > It strikes me that this would really give the system traction > > and cause the kind of disruption to the traditional > > marketplace that is long overdue and ultimately benefiting > > the consumer. > > > > Looking forward to your comments. > > > > Kind regards, > > Simon > > > > PS - We'd be happy to make UK toll-free available as well as > > publish our own voip terminating numbers if a local peer > > could contact me off-list. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dundi mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/dundi > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dundi mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/dundi ------- End of forwarded message ------- Super Technologies Inc., Pensacola, Florida http://www.SuperTec.com - Technologies from tomorrow, Today! MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Rehan33 _______________________________________________ Dundi mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/dundi
