----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Duo/2400 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:49 PM
Subject: [Duo2400] Re: File share? & G4 vs VAIO
> on 16/01/01 22:43, Scott Holder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Duo/2400 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:38 PM
> > Subject: [Duo2400] Re: File share? & G4 vs VAIO
> >
> >
> >> on 16/01/01 22:34, Scott Holder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "Duo/2400 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:29 PM
> >>> Subject: [Duo2400] Re: File share? & G4 vs VAIO
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> on 16/01/01 14:40, Noah Kravitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Okay, so I asked the original question in this thread -- and thank
you
> >>> all
> >>>>> for your answers -- and now I have a follow up, the $64K question if
> > you
> >>>>> will ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I found a cheap USB to Serial adaptor for sale on ebay ... The
> > thinking
> >>> is
> >>>>> I can hook it up to my G4, hence giving it a serial port, and then
run
> >>> an
> >>>>> appletalk cable from the G4's "Serial" port to the serial
> > modem/printer
> >>>>> port on the Duo 230 ... Will this work for file sharing? Has anyone
> >>> tried
> >>>>> it? Please say yes so I can buy it and back my files up :-)
Outside
> > of
> >>>>> that, I'm also looking at an AsanteTalk Ether Print adaptor box to
do
> >>>>> bascially the same thing via Ethernet, which seems a safer bet
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many Thanks in Advance
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure if it's a mistake, but you won't be able to use an
> > AppleTalk
> >>>> cable to connect your serial adaptor. A USB-to-serial is what it says
> > it
> >>> is:
> >>>> a serial connection, not a network one. So, you won't be able to file
> >>> share
> >>>> using this. Your only option is the EtherPrint. Then, you'll be able
to
> >>> use
> >>>> AppleTalk on the 230's side, and EtherTalk on the G4's side. You will
> > need
> >>> a
> >>>> LocalTalk connector for your 230 to plug the AppleTalk cable in it
and
> >>>> another one for your EtherPrint, unless it comes with one. I know, I
> > have
> >>> an
> >>>> AsanteTalk, which is pretty much the same thing. If I were you, I
would
> >>> try
> >>>> to find an Asante Mini or Micro EN/SC, that provides Ethernet to your
> > 230
> >>>> through its SCSI port. Then, using an Ethernet crossover cable, you
> > will
> >>> be
> >>>> able to connect the EN/SC directly to your G4, no hub required,
> > although
> >>>> they are nice to have and about $20-$30. You would get a much better
> >>>> performance, even though the 230 won't be able, through its SCSI
port,
> > to
> >>>> deliver the 10Mbits (much less 100Mbits!) that the G4 can take.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Laurent.
> >>>
> >>> I was under the impression that the USB-Serial adapters allowed you to
> > do
> >>> anything you could do with a built-in serial port.
> >>>
> >>> Scott Holder
> >>
> >> Yes, but file sharing is not possible serially. You need a network
> >> connection to do that, and not only that, but you need a network that
will
> >> support AppleTalk, be it on LocalTalk support or Ethernet.
> >>
> >> -Laurent.
> >
> > Not capable serially? I file share every day by connecting several of my
> > Macs up by their serial ports and selecting the correct port in the
> > AppleTalk control panel. You can network serially :) Now whether these
> > adapters support Appletalk or not, I'm not sure, but you can network
through
> > any built-in serial port (From the Mac Plus up anyway, couldn't tell you
> > about previous ones). Open Transport makes it a lot easier too.
>
> That's because you're using the Printer port, which can do both serial and
> AppleTalk. But when you file share, it's really AppleTalk packets that are
> sent over the wire!
>
> But you're right on one thing: if you want to network 2 devices through
> AppleTalk, you can use a regular serial cable and turn AppleTalk on. That
> would work. If you throw in a USB-serial adapter, I'm not sure that this
> will work. The USB's Mac wouldn't be able to receive AppleTalk packets on
> its USB port. I'm not even sure that the packets would make it to the G4.
> So, in its case, it won't work.
>
> -Laurent.
hehe well, I'm referring to the Appletalk on the builtn :) (Although with OT
I've been able to do it on both serial ports, mainly because I'm too lazy to
get my modem off the Printer port). I think we're agreeing here :)
I'm not sure if the adapter supports it or not either, but I don't really
see why it couldn't work with the proper drivers. Appletalk could be
encapulated in just about any signal you wanted. If there are USB joysticks,
cameras, keyboards, mice, etc, all with their own protocols, I don't really
see why Appletalk automatically couldn't work. Don't know for sure though.
It would be something to look up/try. Too bad I don't have a USB Mac :)
Scott Holder
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