A Quick comment on Cardbus activation:
You all do realize that MCE is the one who effectively STOLE the mod for
cardbus from the cult groups in Japan? It was the Japanese who first
discovered this mod, and someone at MCE who can read Japanese said, hey, I
can steal this and make money!! So don't be getting all defensive of MCE-
if anything, they should make the mod available for free in English with
credit to the original discoverer.
To whoever first made this post (I'm too lazy to scroll down)-- good for you
for wanting to reverse engineer it and make it public. As for Jerry, your
percentages are (sadly, in my opinion) correct.
-John Balint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> is a GREAT deal, and will send their 'book to MCE.
> 10 of them will attempt it, screw it up, and end
> up sending it to MCE to have it fixed, probably
> paying extra charges to straighten out the mess.
> 5 of them will try it, get their powerbooks working
> again, after many hours of frustrating work, and
> will recommend that others send the 'books to MCE.
>
> Net result: Increased business for MCE.
>
> Jerry Krinock
> San Jose, CA
>
>
> on 01/06/17 22:16, chuck goolsbee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> However I find fault with the idea that we should have blind loyalty
>>> to a business that chooses to support the 2400. It's a business and
>>> as soon as they decide cardbus is not worth the bother, it'll be
>>> dropped and then what?
>>>
>>> I aggree that we should support vendors that support the 2400, but
>>> the cardbus activation is a hack that would surely void Apple's
>>> warrenty were it in place. To critisize someone for reverse
>>> engineering someone elses hack seems inconsistant, which makes the
>>> ethical argument somewhat baseless.
>>
>> It was never an issue of blind loyalty, nor was I critical of the
>> investigation of the procedure. What alarmed me was:
>>
>> 1. An on-list request for look at an MCE modified 2400c for the stated
>> purpose of copying their work and undercutting their business.
>> I have *no problem* with anyone doing the work, research and
>> testing, but just to compare and copy, specifically to damage
>> a business *is* ethically dubious in my book.
>>
>> I know that MCE did a lot of work and research to come up with the
>> cardbus activation procedure... I know because I helped them. I don't
>> begrudge Kevin whatever small profit he gets from the procedure,
>> because I know he earned it. However that said, I do NOT believe that
>> MCE has any sort of monopoly on the procedure at all. *But if you are
>> going to compete with them head to head, the only ethical way to do
>> it would be to 'clean room' the procedure, NOT directly copy it.*
>>
>>
>> 2. The poster's lack of knowledge about what he was doing.
>> There were at least 4 rev's of the 2400c MB (maybe more...
>> 'Rev D' is the 'highest' I have encountered to date), but it was
>> obvious to me that this guy had only seen and tried two.
>>
>>
>> 3. The last issue, which Paul Vail & I discussed off-list, was one of
>> trust. I've been on this list for 4+ years. Paul has been on here
>> that long or longer. MCE has been an active supporter of the 2400c
>> since day 1. I had *no* idea who this 'LifeIzCool/Calvin' person was
>> beyond his/her email address... and a look through my archive of this
>> list puts the request to see an MCE-modified 2400c the fourth post
>> from that address ever (with #1 being three weeks ago), and the first
>> discussion thread started by that address. That was a third strike
>> for me. In subsequent off-list discussion it has become obvious
>> that the original poster is a minor, which explains much about
>> discretion and judgement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I totally went off the handle, and my tone was less than
>> friendly that night. (I should have been asleep instead of playing
>> catch-up with list traffic.) Apologies for tone have been exchanged
>> off-list, but I'm sure the points I raised above, especially #1 & #2,
>> are still true.
>>
>> --chuck goolsbee
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