on 6/24/01 12:08 PM, countless monkeys randomly typing on behalf of ahclist
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] miraculously produced:

> On another list I read for our web hosting company, someone was proud
> to proclaim that their IT systems go into sleep mode and "only
> consume 30 watts or thereabouts".  So, that's a Californian talking,
> where if you have two million computers in sleep mode over night,
> that 60 megawatts (someone help me with my math) of energy wasted --
> That is the entire output of the Humboldt Bay nuclear power plant in
> Eureka, California.  Every hour.  Every night.  What do you want to
> bet the number is much higher than 2 million computers?  Just in that
> state.

Sorry, but you're probably almost TWO orders of magnitude off!!!  A typical
nuclear plant is going to be generating 1,000's of megawatts.  You don't
build those things small, not when you had the cost of the plant being
doubled or worse because of delays posed by the foaming-at-the-mouth
radiophobes.

BTW, conservation is fine and nobody's arguing that you shouldn't conserve.
But if you expect to conserve your way out of an energy problem, then you're
fooling yourself seriously.  Unless, of course, you LIKE the idea of living
in a stagnant society that self-imposes a fundamental limit to growth.  Even
assuming you reach 100% efficient use of energy (which you can't, of course,
due to entropy), how then do you grow your economy beyond that point??  You
have to produce more energy!  Has nothing to do with political views...  The
laws of nature really don't give a flip about any of that political crap.

- Eric.



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