On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Mark Smith wrote:

> > This really sucks and abusive V-gifts are more common than many
> > people think.
>
> When we actually have V-gifts, we can look at the appropriate changes
> to the system to make it useful for DW.
>
> There's a careful line here, though.  We want to keep the site open
> enough to encourage community and people interacting - even if it
> might mean that every once in a while there's a bad interaction.

*snip*

> In this case, I agree with you, and think that implementing "who can
> send me a v-gift" as an option would be just fine.  But in the general
> case, let's not be so quick to jump on board with "I should never,
> ever be offended."

I don't think I should never be offended either. Abuse and
offence aren't the same; I may be offended by someone's
insistence on posting things that I can't stand in their own
journal, but that's not their problem or yours, I just need to
stop reading it.  Someone putting stuff in MY journal that is
offensive, especially after I've gone to the trouble of banning
them and they're evading that ban, though, is a misuse of the
system which makes it my business and yours, if you own the
system.

I'm pointing out that LJ has a lot of features that have
deliberately or not been purposely left open to abusive use
(while making some other very strange decisions; the friending
limit doesn't do much to discourage serial adding, but
inconveniences large RPGs, for example).

In general, I think that when we invent new ways for people to
communicate on the site, making it possible for people to control
whether trusted, registered or anonymous users can use them to
reach them is generally a good idea.

That seems to me to be something that should be a default, the
"if you can block something, you should be able to block it based
on who you trust" idea.

I understand that it's always an arms race and that crackers will
always find malicious ways to use things that no-one who isn't as
warped as they are (or hasn't interacted with them long enough to
know how they think) could predict.  I don't hold you responsible
for predicting all troll tactics.  But I do think you might want
to know about existing ones in the code we already have?  And
right now, since anonymous v-gifts can't be blocked, it's one way
a ban evader can always reach a user.

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think we all bow down." --Christopher Fry
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