I have a question. *Palm face* This just crossed my mind reading through the digest emails, and answers addressing porting journals. Will Semagic or Deepest Sender work with Dreamwidth? I know they work on LJ and IJ, but IJ is a clone of LJ, and if I understand everything DW will not be a clone of LJ. I haven't seen this question, sorry if this question has already been addressed.
doingsoso ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: dw-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 > Send dw-discuss mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of dw-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Two questions about importing journals... (chasy) > 2. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Denise Paolucci) > 3. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Andrea Nall) > 4. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Jennifer Tifft) > 5. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Mark Smith) > 6. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Lassarina Aoibhell) > 7. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Mark Smith) > 8. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Andrea Nall) > 9. Re: Two questions about importing journals... (Ruth - thewhiteowl) > 10. emailing entries and responses (Ande) > 11. Re: emailing entries and responses (Mark Smith) > 12. Re: emailing entries and responses (Lije Carpenter) > 13. Re: comment notifications (Emily Styles) > 14. Re: emailing entries and responses (Azalais Aranxta) > 15. Re: emailing entries and responses (Lije Carpenter) > 16. Re: emailing entries and responses (Lynne Baer) > 17. Re: comment notifications (Denise Paolucci) > 18. Re: comment notifications (Philip Newton) > 19. Re: emailing entries and responses (Philip Newton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:48:26 -0500 > From: chasy <[email protected]> > Subject: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: dw-discuss <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Will we be able to import multiple journals? > > And if the answer to that is yes, then the answer to this one is no: Do > the > usernames of the journals have to be the same before you can import? > > Please and thank you. :) > > - Chasy. > > http://cafepress.com/ibingg > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/6895c0f4/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:52:56 -0500 > From: Denise Paolucci <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: chasy <[email protected]> > Cc: dw-discuss <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:48 AM, chasy wrote: > >> Will we be able to import multiple journals? > > IIRC the answer to this is yes. (It's in the spec, but it's in the > spec as a "should", not a "must", and so it'll ultimately depend on > whether the programmer working on this task can get it done.) > > >> And if the answer to that is yes, then the answer to this one is >> no: Do the usernames of the journals have to be the same before you >> can import? > > If what you're asking is "does the username of the journal on the > other site have to be the same as the username of the journal you're > importing the content into", no, it doesn't. You could import your > content from the account "oldusername" on LJ into > "sparklynewusername" on DW with no problem. > > (And, in fact, the username "sparklynewusername" will be valid on DW > where it isn't on any other LJ-based sites, as the username length > limit will be 25 characters, not 15 characters.) > > --D > > > > -- > Denise Paolucci > [email protected] > Dreamwidth Studios: Open Source, open expression, open operations. > Coming soon! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:27 -0700 > From: Andrea Nall <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: Denise Paolucci <[email protected]> > Cc: dw-discuss <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Denise Paolucci wrote: > >> >> On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:48 AM, chasy wrote: >> >>> Will we be able to import multiple journals? >> >> IIRC the answer to this is yes. (It's in the spec, but it's in the >> spec as a "should", not a "must", and so it'll ultimately depend on >> whether the programmer working on this task can get it done.) >> > > Yep, I am allowing importing multiple journals into one. It would be > harder to not allow it. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:26:57 -0700 (MST) > From: "Jennifer Tifft" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: "dw-discuss" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <398bb0b7d424ab8ef22bf6a329f70a69.squir...@webmail.nerdalfheim.org> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > This brings up a question -- will the new, longer length for the username > break anything in openID? Since (if I understand openID correctly) one's > openID from DW would have the longer name. > > Cheers, > Jennifer Gail aka Lferion > > <snip> >> >> (And, in fact, the username "sparklynewusername" will be valid on DW >> where it isn't on any other LJ-based sites, as the username length >> limit will be 25 characters, not 15 characters.) >> >> --D >> > > > -- > That road does not lead toward war > Whose gate lies open to the stars. --Alcuin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:28:09 -0800 > From: Mark Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: [email protected] > Cc: dw-discuss <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> This brings up a question -- will the new, longer length for the username >> break anything in openID? Since (if I understand openID correctly) one's >> openID from DW would have the longer name. > > OpenID is URL-based. It shouldn't break anything for behaving sites. > > The only thing I could see breaking are sites that have special "enter > your LJ username" boxes - but since those boxes only work for LJ, we > don't have to worry about it. (Now, if they add a DW box, they will > have to be aware of our new limit.) > > > -- > Mark Smith / xb95 > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:37:38 -0600 > From: Lassarina Aoibhell <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: Mark Smith <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Adding to the questions about importing journals - and I apologize if this > has been addressed previously and I missed it - will tags be imported, or > will we have to go back and re-tag each of our entries? > > Lassarina Aoibhell > Webmaster, The RPG Place > http://www.rpgplace.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/45b3b560/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:30:35 -0800 > From: Mark Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: Lassarina Aoibhell <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> Adding to the questions about importing journals - and I apologize if >> this >> has been addressed previously and I missed it - will tags be imported, or >> will we have to go back and re-tag each of our entries? > > Tags will be imported, yes. :) > > > -- > Mark Smith / xb95 > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:31:01 -0700 > From: Andrea Nall <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: Lassarina Aoibhell <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:37 , Lassarina Aoibhell wrote: > >> Adding to the questions about importing journals - and I apologize >> if this has been addressed previously and I missed it - will tags be >> imported, or will we have to go back and re-tag each of our entries? >> > > Yep, tags will be imported. > >> Lassarina Aoibhell >> Webmaster, The RPG Place >> http://www.rpgplace.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dw-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/56f1d12a/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:40:48 +0000 > From: Ruth - thewhiteowl <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] Two questions about importing journals... > To: Mark Smith <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Mark Smith wrote: >>> Adding to the questions about importing journals - and I apologize if >>> this >>> has been addressed previously and I missed it - will tags be imported, >>> or >>> will we have to go back and re-tag each of our entries? >>> >> >> Tags will be imported, yes. :) >> >> >> > Hurray! That killed me when I ported to IJ. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:58:28 -0500 > From: Ande <[email protected]> > Subject: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > right now, on LJ, i can get my responses emailed to me. i love this > feature. would it ever be possible to have one's posts emailed? like a > cross-poster but to your personal email. i only ask because i do use my > gmail as a repository and i search it frequently and i was just thinking > how > much i would love to get my posts emailed to me so i could sort and store > them even if no one ever responded to them. > cluelessly, > &e > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/bedcaf1b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:24:29 -0800 > From: Mark Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: Ande <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> right now, on LJ, i can get my responses emailed to me. i love this >> feature. would it ever be possible to have one's posts emailed? like a >> cross-poster but to your personal email. i only ask because i do use my >> gmail as a repository and i search it frequently and i was just thinking >> how >> much i would love to get my posts emailed to me so i could sort and store >> them even if no one ever responded to them. >> cluelessly, >> &e > > Don't see why not, would be pretty easy. > > Does tracking a journal email you new entries? If so, can you track > yourself? > > If not, we can probably make it do that. File a bug? :) > > > -- > Mark Smith / xb95 > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:41 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lije Carpenter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: Mark Smith <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <1761994624.2341171233095801171.javamail.r...@sz0083a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Tracking a journal just lets you know there's been a post. It doesn't > provide you with the entry. > > > > principia_coh > Alexis Carpenter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark Smith > > To: Ande > > Cc: [email protected] > > Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:29 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > > > >> right now, on LJ, i can get my responses emailed to me. i love this > >> feature. would it ever be possible to have one's posts emailed? like a > >> cross-poster but to your personal email. i only ask because i do use my > >> gmail as a repository and i search it frequently and i was just thinking >> how > >> much i would love to get my posts emailed to me so i could sort and store > >> them even if no one ever responded to them. > >> cluelessly, > >> &e > > > > Don't see why not, would be pretty easy. > > > > Does tracking a journal email you new entries? If so, can you track > yourself? > > > > If not, we can probably make it do that. File a bug? :) > > > > > > -- > > Mark Smith / xb95 > > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > dw-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/bb58817e/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:48 -0500 > From: Emily Styles <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] comment notifications > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Speaking of notifications, is there something to be done with DW to ensure > that the comment notifications get through? I know with Gmail, my LJ > comments *usually* come through no problem, but a good chunk of the time > go > straight into the trash or just never show up at all. Is this something on > Gmail's end, or is it something that can be fixed in DreamWidth? > > Emily > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Highlander II <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know if this is an issue from the LJ/IJ side or from the GMail >> side >> (and I don't know if it affects other e-mail clients, since I only use >> GMail): >> >> LJ: user posts 3 entries in 3 diff communities; someone replies to >> entry1; >> GMail stacks/threads all comments to that entry in one email; someone >> replies to entry2; GMail stacks/threads all comment to that entry in a >> 2nd >> email; etc. >> >> IJ: user posts 3 entries in 3 diff communities; someone replies to >> entry1; >> GMail stacks/threads all comments to that entry in one email; someone >> replies to entry2; GMail stacks/threads all comment to that entry in the >> same email as entry1; ditto for entry3 - unless a subject line is added, >> then all entries with the same subject line are stacked together. >> (granted, >> I believe it's been mentioned that Squeaky is trying to fix this, I'm >> just >> not sure when he's gonna get to it.) >> >> >> Question: Which model is DW going to follow? >> >> Desired: The LJ model, please. I like my threads to be organized and >> the >> LJ model keeps things structured. I don't like sifting through a long >> list >> of comments trying to find the one that I haven't responded to yet b/c >> when >> I opened the mail, then marked it 'unread', the whole thread goes >> 'unread' >> again. (which is a GMail thing, sort of, but linked to the IJ issue too). >> >> -- >> Highlander II >> >> Currently reading: "Furies of Calderon" by Jim Butcher >> http://www.h2smsk.com >> http://hdresdenwizard.h2smsk.com >> http://vanhelsing.h2smsk.com/ >> http://jamesmarsters.h2smsk.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dw-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/e0c9161f/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) > From: Azalais Aranxta <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: Lije Carpenter <[email protected]> > Cc: Mark Smith <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Lije Carpenter wrote: > >> Tracking a journal just lets you know there's been a post. It >> doesn't provide you with the entry. > > Er, I stalk several journals (don't look at me like that, I've > got a friendslist of hundreds and there are a few comms I need to > follow because of projects, &c) and while they don't email the > entry to you, the whole entry does appear in my inbox. > > **************************************************************** > Azalais Aranxta (~malfoy) > ataniell93 on LiveJournal and Vox > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malfoymadness > > "I know the true world, and you know I do. But we needn't let it > think we all bow down." --Christopher Fry > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:11:31 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lije Carpenter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: Azalais Aranxta <[email protected]> > Cc: Mark Smith <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: > <1376723906.2357071233097891978.javamail.r...@sz0083a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Copying an entry into the on-site Inbox does not serve the purpose of > providing an off-site backup/record of an entry. :) > > > principia_coh > Alexis Carpenter > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Er, I stalk several journals (don't look at me like that, I've > > got a friendslist of hundreds and there are a few comms I need to > > follow because of projects, &c) and while they don't email the > > entry to you, the whole entry does appear in my inbox. > > > > **************************************************************** > > Azalais Aranxta (~malfoy) > > ataniell93 on LiveJournal and Vox > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malfoymadness > > > > "I know the true world, and you know I do. But we needn't let it > > think we all bow down." --Christopher Fry > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/58b79adb/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:26:21 -0500 > From: Lynne Baer <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yeah, but IIRC, there were security reasons involved with sending the > contents of an entry that you might, a few seconds later (when the poster > realizes they didn't mean to make that post public or unfiltered), no > longer > be able to see. > > "Er, I stalk several journals [...] and while they don't email the entry > to > you, the whole entry does appear in my inbox." > > Yeah, I've kind of been using my LJ Inbox as a stopgap watchlist for the > last while. It's useful that way! > > - Lynne > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Lije Carpenter > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Copying an entry into the on-site Inbox does not serve the purpose of >> providing an off-site backup/record of an entry. :) >> >> >> principia_coh >> Alexis Carpenter >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Er, I stalk several journals (don't look at me like that, I've >> >> got a friendslist of hundreds and there are a few comms I need to >> >> follow because of projects, &c) and while they don't email the >> >> entry to you, the whole entry does appear in my inbox. >> >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> Azalais Aranxta (~malfoy) >> >> ataniell93 on LiveJournal and Vox >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malfoymadness >> >> >> >> "I know the true world, and you know I do. But we needn't let it >> >> think we all bow down." --Christopher Fry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dw-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss >> > > > > -- > http://www.lynnebaer.com/ * http://ursamajor.livejournal.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/pipermail/dw-discuss/attachments/20090127/bcaba63e/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:51:46 -0500 > From: Denise Paolucci <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] comment notifications > To: Emily Styles <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Emily Styles wrote: > >> Speaking of notifications, is there something to be done with DW to >> ensure that the comment notifications get through? I know with >> Gmail, my LJ comments *usually* come through no problem, but a good >> chunk of the time go straight into the trash or just never show up >> at all. Is this something on Gmail's end, or is it something that >> can be fixed in DreamWidth? > > Gmail's end. The problem is that many providers see the large numbers > of similar emails, or just the large numbers of emails period, and > implements spam blocking against the service that's sending them (ie, > LJ). Sometimes the email comes in to your inbox already flagged as > spam; sometimes it doesn't even make it to your inbox, because your > email provider blocks or delays all mail from the service. > > These sorts of problems are murder to diagnose in the first place and > even harder to fix. We'll do our best, but if we start running into > problems, it may take us a while to develop relationships with the > major email providers to get placed on whitelists -- even LJ keeps > getting put back onto blacklists or greylists all the time, and > that's with having relationships and contacts with many of the major > providers. If we hit a certain volume of email to certain email > providers (and God only knows what that level is), expect to see some > missing email here and there until we can convince them that no, > we're not evil spammers, all of our email is legit. > > --D > > > -- > Denise Paolucci > [email protected] > Dreamwidth Studios: Open Source, open expression, open operations. > Coming soon! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:02:23 +0100 > From: Philip Newton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] comment notifications > To: Denise Paolucci <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:51, Denise Paolucci <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> it may take us a while to develop relationships with the >> major email providers to get placed on whitelists -- even LJ keeps >> getting put back onto blacklists or greylists all the time, and >> that's with having relationships and contacts with many of the major >> providers. If we hit a certain volume of email to certain email >> providers (and God only knows what that level is), expect to see some >> missing email here and there until we can convince them that no, >> we're not evil spammers, all of our email is legit. > > It also doesn't help that some users' response to unwanted comment > notification emails is not "change my comment email settings on > LiveJournal/remove the notification subscription" but "report email as > spam" to their provider. > > Cheers, > -- > Philip Newton <[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:04:07 +0100 > From: Philip Newton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DW Discuss] emailing entries and responses > To: Lynne Baer <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:26, Lynne Baer <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yeah, but IIRC, there were security reasons involved with sending the >> contents of an entry that you might, a few seconds later (when the poster >> realizes they didn't mean to make that post public or unfiltered), no >> longer >> be able to see. > > Ah, I was wondering why the notifications in email and in the LJ Inbox > behaved differently (in terms of pointer vs. full entry) -- that would > explain it. > > Cheers, > -- > Philip Newton <[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > dw-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss > > End of dw-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ dw-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss
