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TKS Tom, N4KG, for sharing the # of radials vs length
of radials for verticals. Longer the length of radials,
more radials you need (for ground mounts). Think of
of it as your "overall artifical ground density". 4/10
wavelength (at lowest operating frequency) is a good
number for the length of radials for ground mounts. That's
why all my radials for my 20 thru 10M H.B. were 25 ft.
For radials of that length, I needed 36 radials for Tom's
Rule !!!

Not feeling well today so not really made up my mind, but
to keep it simple, think I am prob going to go with either
a Hustler/BTV or Hy-Gain/AVQ elevated mount and elevated
tuned radials. Yeah, I know traps a bit lossy and not
perfectly hermeticly sealed. For about $ 120.00 for the 
Hustler 4BTV, and the good reveiws on E.Ham Net, seems
like a good choice for a "bought vertical". Not really
worked many "new ones" on 17 or 12M anyway, and Hustler
does offer a 30M "add-on kit"  Your comments very much
appreciated.

Some of you were using a length of wire (66/132 ft)
thrown over a tree limb in "Inv Vee" config and feeding
one end with coax and a number of tuned/untuned radials
connected to coax braid at feedpoint. You can most
definetety tune "this snake" for a 1:1 SWR with your
"T" tuner, but try putting a SWR Meter in-line with
coax between tuner and Ant and see what the real SWR is
on the coax. Bet it is 3:1 or higher !! So if you
running relatively high power, count on some significant
dielectric losses in your coax, and mabe a coax short to
to occur if the VSWR at a voltage loop exceeds the diectric 
breakdown voltage of your coax.

Again, thanks all for the input !!!

73,  Larry 


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