Well said Ron. I noticed during the Beta test, if it had been for real I would have picked up several new band countries.
Can't help but say I like it and I know it will never totally replace the good old QSL card/SASE/Green Stamps. Rod WC7N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred Souto Maior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mome Z32ZM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "DX Chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-News] Vinny from the crossing..... > Gentlemen, > > Please, let's not the rhetoric start causing us to put words in other > people's mouths... > > Logbook of the World has always been intended as a voluntary system. I have > yet to hear from ANYONE who is in any way a League offical (at the Hq level, > that is) propose anything that in ANY way implies that LotW usage will be > mandated. The suggestion or comments to the effect that LotW should be > mandated have all come from others not directly related to LotW -- not from > the League Hq. folks. > > Let us further keep in perspective that LotW was created in part because of > a clamor over the last few years from a small but steadily growing number of > DX'ers who wanted an electronic means of getting confirmations for awards > purposes. > > Now this is not to say that OTHERS may insist to some degree or another that > LotW use should be mandated. I would not be surprised if, at some point, > some large DX organization or another tells a DXpeditiion that in exchange > for funding, they must upload their logs to LotW at some point. But IF that > situation should happen, again remember that it is someone OTHER than the > League making that request. > > Further, I'd submit that one of the many benefits of LotW will be that a > certain small percentage of DX and Contest stations who, for whatever > reason(s), either decline to answer QSL cards or do so very grudgingly, now > have a relatively painless outlet available to them. They will be able to > send their log in electronically and thus provide an means of confirming the > QSL (and yes, in some cases, there may be three emails -- one to the contest > sponsor, one to LotW, one to eQSL to cover those who decline to use LotW. > Sure is easier than filling out a few dozen, let alone hundreds or > thousands, of QSL cards by hand). > > And let's face an unpleasant fact: Some of those who collect green stamps > or IRC's in lieu of sending out QSL cards will probably never embrace LotW. > And some of those who simply do not wish to be bothered, period, won't > either. So some problems will never be solved. > > Having said that, let us NOT forget that Logbook of the World is just now > being fully implemented. There will be growing pains, and updates (for the > better, I'm sure) and some changes as the system actually gets used. > > So let's not pronounce it "DOA" just yet, hmmm? > > 73, ron wn3vaw > > 46th Annual Pennsylvania QSO Party October 11 & 12! > www.nittany-arc.org/paqso.html > Look for N3SH - Allegheny County, WA3SH - Fayette County, and NP2SH -- US > Virgin Islands! > For more information see www.washarc.org > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Souto Maior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mome Z32ZM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "NJDXA DXR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [DX-News] Vinny from the crossing..... > > > Hello Mome/all: > > All cards you mentioned on your message I received without any problem. > All cards I needed and all cards I asked for, with SAE and return postage, > I received OK.All requests of cards I received for all my expeditions with > SAE and return postage ($, IRC's or stamps) I answered same way. Only a few > ones, I had to send again. Don't forget this is a hobby !!! You can't ask > for anything to be an OBLIGATION TO ALL as per your message. Nobody can tell > me what to do regarding my activity as a > ham.And ARRL or any other kind of organization can't tell me that I must do > this or that with MY log or MY cards. Thanks of God !!!!! Best regards to > all. > And BTW never expect to see my logs on LOTW !!!! I don't use E-logs. All my > qso's are on old paper logs system. > > Fred - PY7ZZ > > > -----Mensagem Original----- > De: "Mome Z32ZM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: "NJDXA DXR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Enviada em: Quinta-feira, 18 de Setembro de 2003 16:20 > Assunto: Re: [DX-News] Vinny from the crossing..... > > > > Finnaly > YES , LoTW as OBLIGATION for ALL ! > > > > We can count on QSL's never seen B4 & no chance to have them via buro or > > several direct attempt via namager > VP8SSI, TX0DX, E44DX, 3Y0PI, VK0IR, > > K7K, K4M, .....etc......well , by the scool by now....marked as NO WAY > for > > BURO CARDS. > > > > > So I'm sure that all of us been waiting for chance like this one > LoTW. > > > > BUT > Untill this LoTW will not take a place as OBLIGATION , esspecially > > for at least TOP-20 by most wanted DXCC's , > > will be absoluttely 'UNUSABLLE' & will keep those DXCC's & Managers > > > 'UNTOUCHABLE' ...... > > > > SO I SUGGEST: in the comming rulles of DXCC commitee . simplyy add: > > 1.When some DXPN send the approvall documents that was legal one > TO > > INCLUDE COMPLETTE UNCHANGABLE LOG on LoTW > Otherwise that operation is > NOT > > GOOD FOR DXCC(WAZ, IOTA,WPX...etc.) ....... just to make it sure that > > everyone are in same position............. > > > > Because if this NOT HAPPEND > LoTW is DEAD before the START !!! > > > > > > Stay Tuned on SIX !!! > > > > 73,GL&DX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM > > www.qsl.net/z32zm > > > > ---------- > > From: Tino Pavic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [DX-News] Vinny from the crossing..... > > Date: Thursday, September 18, 2003 20:46 PM > > > > LOTW is up, we should all celebrate. > > We are catching up with time. > > I congratulate ARRL on their vision, they have done it for all of us > > (again). > > > > You work new country, you will have it confirmed. > > I have sent 10 direct QSL attempts to some QSL managers to no avail. > > > > Somehow lots of people can talk about M_O_N_E_Y only. > > It costed money to develop LOTW, and it will cost money to run it. > > THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH ! > > If you need LOTW, you can use it. > > If you do not need it, you do not have to use it. > > > > Would not that be nice if somebody else was to pay for us all the time ? > > No, I am happy to pay for service I use. > > > > Tino Pavic, VK3EGN > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40njdxa.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40njdxa.org > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
