Well Ron the poit is just that one you mentioned. That routine isn't applied to everybody. And about the DEMO operation I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about dont't you ???. It was one of those out of the routine and nothing was requested. The point is that ZW0S has ALL information needed on his HomePage and in my oppinion, there is no sense to return qsl's submitted for credit when all information is available. BTW I'm not trying to change your point of view. I'm just expressing mine At least, we live in democratic countries and we can say what we think isn't that ??? best regards
Fred - PY7ZZ -----Mensagem Original----- De: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: "Fred Souto Maior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John and Mari Minke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Art RX9TX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "DX Chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Enviada em: Terça-feira, 25 de Novembro de 2003 02:14 Assunto: Re: Re[2]: [DX-News] ZW0S > Fred, > > Pardon me for asking, but maybe I'm missing the point. > > What is so onerous about a routine request to verify that the license is > still current, that the current operation has the proper permissions from > the proper authorities to be located there, and that the operator is > actually there? > > I don't think that the fact that he's a Brazillian operating from a > Brazillian territory is relevant. I would expect no less (if anything > more!) scrutiny from an operation by US amateurs from KP1 or KP5 or any one > of a bunch of US owned/administered little rocks and atolls scattered > throughout the Pacific Ocean. > > Yes, we all know about the "demo" operation that worked "only 27 of so radio > friends... with no papers at all." (By the way, which one are you referring > to, the first legit modern day P5 operation, or the return of BY1 to the air > back 25 or so years ago?) I think it's to the credit of the DXCC desk that > they are flexible enough to allow for unique or near unique situations (I > mean c'mon, you can't expect the rules to cover EVERY possible contingency) > on those rare occasions when they surface. > > Why is a mountain being made out of this molehill? > > 73, ron wn3vaw > > "What's the point in being crazy if you can't have a little fun with it?" > -- Russell Crowe portraying John Nash, "A Beautiful Mind" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Souto Maior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John and Mari Minke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Art RX9TX" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'DX-NEWS'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [DX-News] ZW0S > > > Well John at that time you mentioned, around 40 years ago, when W9WNV > operated from the coast of Venezuela and said he was on Peter and Paul > Rocks, > we couldn't see his HomePage showing him there, not only for radio > activities, > but WORKING there, with lot of pictures of the rocks, the operator at his > station, > logs, and comments stating what he is doing there etc. Different situations > John. > Same treatment isn't fare don't you think ??? And BTW, I started 1969 and I > know > what you are talking about. It isn't like the situation that we have now > regarding ZW0S. > Ar least, in my oppinion. Best regards. > > Fred - PY7ZZ > > -----Mensagem Original----- > De: "John and Mari Minke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: "Art RX9TX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'DX-NEWS'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Enviada em: Segunda-feira, 24 de Novembro de 2003 19:43 > Assunto: Re: Re[2]: [DX-News] ZW0S > > > > Art RX9TX wrote: > > > > > Sounds reasonable for me, what kind of proof should a brasilian > > > researcher propose to the DXCC Desk? Landing permission? I do not > > > think Joaquim was requested of that by PY authorities. Ticket? I doubt > > > DXCC Desk ever requested a ticket from Chuck 3Y0C. > > > Helicopter/airplane/ship master signature? Weird. Just wonder what > > > kind of evidence do they want. I think no one doubt Joaquim was > > > operating from the rocks, and he has a proper license, that's the > > > keyword. > > > > All of a sudden we have DXers questioning polcies of the DXCC Desk. Had > > some you been in the DX game some 40 years ago you would understand! > > > > 73 de John N6JM > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40njdxa.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40njdxa.org > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org