Hi Barry, Strangely I've had no problems with FR5DX either....once I learned to write REUNION ISLAND, FRANCE, or VIA FRANCE on the envelope. Don't let it go direct. Our Gallic friends have a good post office. However, I don't see why these guys don't use a QSL manager either. Have you ever travelled around Africa? I have a bit, but ask G3SXW, G3VMW or G0IAS to relate some REAL experiences :-) It's a different world. Really. cheers D
--- On Sat, 15/11/08, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 12:49 PM I sent a card to YU7GMN via buro in 2003 with no reply. I've never sent a card to V51AS despite 20+ QSOs because he is a well-known QSL deadbeat. I don't buy his "bad mail service" excuse. It appears he's a graduate of the FR5DX School of QSLing - send just enough cards so people will keep trying, sending more green stamps each time. If the mail service is, in fact, the problem, there are plenty of volunteer QSL managers around the world, in countries with reliable mail service, willing to help. One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to know that's the way to go if the mail service is really the problem. There are DXpeditions of V5 every now and then. Wait for one of those. 73, Barry W2UP DAVE WHITE wrote: > Hi Jerry, I never tried YU7GWN, but have received several QSLs from V51AS. > > V51AS is a good QSLer.....when he receives mail, so please don't blame > him. > > Unfortunately, as with much of Africa since the colonial powers left, > countries descended into chaos, corruption and theft (go to Nigeria, > it's a way of life there!). We see this in the mail theft that > routinely happens with mail to V51AS. Sadly this has happened across > the whole continent - they're not all as bad as Zimbabwe, but plenty > are nearly there. Remember, $2 is often a weekly or monthly wage in > Africa and Western aid $$$ end up in the current dictator's Swiss bank > account. > > If I can give any tips (they're old, well-known ones), it's > (1) Don't write callsigns or "amateur radio" etc on the envelope > (2) fold your green stamps inside your return envelope and make sure > that this in turn is folded so that the contents aren't visible even > if the corners of your envelope are lifted. Insert it opening down. > (3) If you've not got a dark coloured QSL card, shove some carbon > paper in there, so the contents aren't visible if it's held to the light > (4) try to fold the return envelope so it doesn't look like a return > envelope - this is a dead giveaway. > > Following these, I have a pretty decent return rate from V51AS > > I'd be surprised if there are such mail problems in Serbia, but YU7GMN > is a club station, so mail probably sits there for a while. They're > probably more interested in operating/antenna projects etc. Do you > know which op you worked? You could probably try him??? > > Whilst we're on the subject, has anyone received QSLs from XE1KK? > > Hope this helps. > > cheers > > Dave G0OIL > > --- On *Sat, 15/11/08, Jerry Rappel /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > From: Jerry Rappel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [DX-CHAT] YU7GMN V51AS QSL's > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 5:19 AM > > Has anyone received QSL's from YU7GWN, or V51AS? > > Thanks, > > Jerry WWØE > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In the message body put either > > unsubscribe dx-chat > > or > > subscribe dx-chat > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In the message body put either > > unsubscribe dx-chat > > or > > subscribe dx-chat > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > ----------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1789 - Release Date: 11/14/2008 7:32 PM > > -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -----------------------------------------------------------
